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My G G Granfather was George Rademacher.Not sure what year that he was born but wont be too far off this.Obviously he came over to England on the boat when all the Prussians were leaving Germany for a better life.He married a Lady called Mary Ann.My Grand Father Mathew was one of his sons.He later became Wheelwright as I think others did and maybe even himself.Would like to find his birth and Parent details,also where he came from and when he came over.Any help appreciated....

Do you have a rough idea of birth? When was your grandfather born and where?

Liz

There is a George Radmacher born at Kensington 1838. Irene

Hi.Not sure if I understand what you've said..."That he was born and won't be too far off this"?Do you know his approx birth year?Cass

Sorry,it was in the heading but it has not all came out.Must have been too long.He was born in Hamburg Germany.Sorry Irene not Kensington.He was born we think in the 30s at some point but unsure of when.He died in 1910 in Liverpool.We know he was in Liverpool from 1851 onwards but in all 3 census reports onwards the spelling of his name changes........

Is this the right man?


1901 England Census
about George Rademacher
Name: George Rademacher
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Caretaher
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

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Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
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Household schedule number: 78
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Keegan 24
Hugh Mc Mahon 28
Rebecca Mc Mahon 29
George Rademacher 70

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1881 England Census
about George Radmacher
Name: George Radmacher
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hamburg, Germany

Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 79 Duke Street
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Emigration Agent

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
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Household Members:
Name Age
George Radmacher 48
George Radmacher 14
Livi Radmacher 7

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1871 England Census
about George Rademacher
Name: George Rademacher
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanbury, Germany
Civil Parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: Kensington Christchurch
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
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Household schedule number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rademacher 37
George Rademacher 4
John Rademacher 6
Mary Rademacher 29 b Newcastle, Staffordshire
William Rademacher 8

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Unsure about the 1901 as I dont have that info.The rest is ok though.He was married to Mary and had 4 sons William,John,George and Livi.Eventually though,Livi Radermacher became Mathew Wheelwright.....

Hi alviegal.Post at the top says relation caretaher,is this something mis-spelt or what does it mean...

Colin,Caretaker,Cass

1901 census.He was a Caretaker at 169,Duke Street,[Mount Pleasant] Liverpool and also occupation as, "Passenger Agent"

His wife died in 1877.

That is spot on then Cass.He was an immigration Agent.So this is him.Is there any way that we can find him before coming over this way.....What info do you have for his wife...

I believe I've now found him in the 1861 census.

George Radencher c 1833,Hamburg,lodging at 29,St Vincent Street,Liverpool.

He was single and his occupation was Office Clerk.

I'd say that this is your man.

You have to allow for transcription error's and also,this name is on Passenger list's from Hamburg to the U.S.A.

I'm trying to find the marriage as he probably would have c 1862.

I should think he would have only been in the country a few year's prior to 1861.if that!

George's Wife,Mary Ann died 1877 and registered death at West Derby,Lancashire

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Hi Cass.Yes we have all this info to a point.As far as we know he was over here from at least 1850 as he is on the 51 census.It is only really the info before this that we require.Thanks...Colin

Had a feelin that we would get no further.Has anyone any ideas about gettin this info.How would I go about it.Has anyone any records of any of these coming over on the boats or any records in Germany.....

Colin.Seem's strange that Christine did'nt have him on the 1901 census.
If you'd have explained in your "Thread"that you had the census info of 1851,then maybe you could have shared that with the people who've been trying to help you and maybe then we would have had some different Clue's to assist you.

Hi Cass.I appreciate all help that I can get but if you look back to the posts 16.56,17,40 19,04 and 20.02 especially the 1740 one,you will see that the only info that I am looking for is before he came over.The 17.40 post informed all, that I knew where he was from 1850 onwards so if anyone needed to know they only had to ask.I understand that you require certain bits of info in order to track back and thats understandable.I will have a look if I can find the details for 1851.Think that his name was spelt quite different,that may help a little.Thanks....Colin

Sorry Cass,the info that I had given out about 1850 was wrong.Just looked back at the records and it was 1861.The info that you had about George Redencher of Vincent Street was the last record that we found, but was unsure if him or not.Sometimes its a matter of looking at all the different parts of the info and putting 2 and 2 together.
We were told by a member of the family who has most of the records and certificates to back them up,that he poss came over in or around 1860.This may well be due to the fact that he can not find him on the 1851 census.
Anyway thanks again for all your help,it is fantastic that people are prepared to put themselves out for other peoples needs,and it is greatly appreciated.I hope that one day,we can do the same for you...Colin

I think were I was going wrong was that we did find George Radermacher in the 1851 census that gives a birth date of 1838.He was resident in Middlesex.We did not have any more info on this so dismissed it.May well be him,I do not know......