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GR have changed the T&C's and I would suggest that you all read section 11.

GR now have the right to request evidence of your permission to post & to me this would include census information.

Please feel free to correct me if I've read this wrongly, I'm no legal expert.

You agree to give us evidence of all such licences, rights, consents, and permissions if so requested by us. You acknowledge that the contents of any Submission material other than personal data will be considered non-confidential.

This would mean that if you reproduce on here anything that is subject to copyright, then you must have evidence that you have permission from the copyright holder to reproduce any such item.

So if anybody "copies and pastes" from another website then they should firstly obtain permission from that site, if there is a registered copyright.

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There was a thread on Tips a few weeks ago pointing out that by doing lookups we were putting our Ancestry/FMP subs in jeopardy.

Now it seems that GR are tightening up or am I reading this wrongly?

I am not an expert in Copyright law but basically if you reproduce anything "ad hoc" from another website, book or any document then you are infringing copyright.
When writing, if I wish to reproduce a written statement then I have to obtain permission or I can reauthor it, ie I could not reproduce "Mrs Smith lived next door to Mrs Jones" I could however write "Mrs Jones lived next door to Mrs Smith"
Copyright is a very big and very grey area.

ps I have in fact infringed Copyright law by reproducing Ancestry's T&Cs !

A little bit confusing reading section 11.

I at first thought it was referring to info contained in your own tree

Maureen

With what happened to LFW i'll be stopping the look up from now on

What if info was pmd,would that be able to be tracked?and if you dont paste but only put the names, birth year and place of birth so people can look up themselves would that be an infringment of the copyright?
vivienne

No you only infringe copyright if you copy verbatim. If you put the details in your own words that is ok. To republish facts that are widely available (ie on a website) does not infringe any laws.

Thank you LD
vivienne

Maybe we should all sign up to transcribe for freecen. I can't at the moment as I transcribe for freebmd and am also transcribing parish records for my own parish so don't have much free time but hope to be able to next year.

I suspect Ancestry have complained to GR!

It is fairly recently that someone on one of the threads posted the info that when they telephoned Ancestry re the huge increase in subs they were told it was because of people offering "look ups" in this country.

I notice on Family Tree Forum people are talking of renewing their Ancestry subs through Aus and NZ which is much cheaper.

JULIE

what happened to LFW?

I think I will not be posting info on my BIVRI thread now.

Anne

A majority of this board is people asking for look ups..Do you think it will have to be closed down then?
That would be a shame as I have met tons of nice people on here

Marcelle

Pam, yes that is correct. Most websites will have that in their T&Cs.
If you quote a website address without their prior consent, that is an infringement.

Marcelle, there is no reason for look ups to stop. As I said earlier, what you cannot do is quote the info you find verbatim. (ie copy and paste) You have to rewrite it.

Thanks LD. I have to type all my info out as I am unable to copy & paste from my info

Thanks

Marcelle

I would think that people can still ask for information.

It is the transfer of the info (as in copy and paste) that is not really allowed and it does seem to have grown lately!