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trying to trace william wild born castleford yorks1877. lived in stanley co durham worked as coal miner married isabella trueman trying to find his parents or anything prior to 1901 thanks ed

Hi Edwin

Do you have the marriage certificate for his marriage to Isabella Trueman?When and where did they marry? I'm having trouble trying to find the marriage at the moment.

I take it you have the census details for 1901? Would you like to post them here.

Thanks

This is the only birth I can find in the right registration district (Pontefract covers Castleford):-

Name: William George Wild
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 136

Kath. x

I'm assuming this is the 1901 census:-

Name: William Wild
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Castleford, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Stanley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Lane End
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Coal Miner (hewer)

Condition as to marriage: single

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Stanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members:
Name Age

William Wild 24
Fanny Dixon 23, Housekeeper

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4282; Folio: 42; Page: 25.

Kath. x

hi yes this is william 1901 census the one i cant trace back on thanks ed

Are you sure William lived in Stanley, Co. Durham? On the 1901 census he is living in the civil parish of Stanley in Yorkshire, which isn't far from Castleford and Wakefield.

Kath. x

Do you know when William married Isabella? I can't find a marriage for them but the marriage certificate would hopefully give his father's name.

Kath. x

i have not got marriage cert but on ancestry.com isabella s trueman marriage index 1912 spouse wilde thanks ed

Edwin

I think there is a little confusion here. These are the marriage details for the marriage given below

Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)
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CUSKEARN James Wade Lanchester 10a 686
Trueman Isabella S Wilde Lanchester 10a 686
Wade Margaret A Cuskearn Lanchester 10a 686
WILDE Edmund J Trueman Lanchester 10a 686

As you can see, this is a registration for an Edmund Wilde not William Wild. So, I don't think this is a marriage for your man I'm afraid.

Isabella Trueman married Edmund Wilde.


Marriages Dec 1912 (>99%)


Trueman Isabella S Wilde Lanchester 10a 686
WILDE Edmund J Trueman Lanchester 10a 686

If you use Free BMD and click on the ref no it brings up the other names .

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

So, are you looking for William or Edmund?


Christine

Here are three William Wilds born c1877 in Yorkshire on the 1911 census

HOUSEHOLD WILD WILLIAM M 1876 35 Huddersfield Yorkshire West Riding

HOUSEHOLD WILD WILLIAM M 1879 32 Dartford Kent

HOUSEHOLD WILD WILLIAM OGDEN M 1874 37 Dewsbury Yorkshire West Riding

I think we can discount the last one due to the middle name. The second one also doesn't look likely but he may just have moved.

It might be worth paying to view the transcript for the first entry to see if this is your man.

If you work backwards from yourself, is it Isabella Trueman or William Wild that you are certain is your ancestor, and where did they live?

As already stated Isabella did not marry William, she married Edmund, and there is nothing to connect Isabella to the William Wild on the 1901 census born in Castleford.

Kath. x

i am only 100 pc of my grandmother .isabella trueman my grandfather i did not know. had heard of a billy ??i only heard that he was a runaway before he met gran. they lived in stanley co durham. think i picked up william and thought stanley co durham .not yorkshire i only know he also was a miner.looks like castleford is wrong?? how confusing . my mother was jessie wild born 1915 oxhill stanley co durham thanks ed

1911 census

HOUSEHOLD TRUEMAN ISABELLA F 1887 24 Lanchester Durham
HOUSEHOLD WILD EDMUND JAMES M 1889 22 Lanchester Durham

These two people are living in the same household in 1911.

Three Edmund Wilds born

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
WILD Edmund Gateshead 10a 833

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Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Wild Edmund Sheffield 9c 477

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Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Wild Edmund Rochdale 8e 15


And 4 Edmund Wilde

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
Wilde Edmund Shoreditch 1c 129
Wilde Edmund Hatfield Northallerton 9d _35

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Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Wilde Edmund Bolton 8c 323

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Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Wilde Edmund Prescot 8b 675

I think the ones in 1890 and 1891 are too late though.

The one born in Gateshead looks promising and could be traced on the census but you would really need the marriage certificate to confirm his father.

Okay, we have some deaths for infant Edmund Wilds

Deaths Mar 1888 (99%)
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WILD Edmund 1 Gateshead 10a 446
WILD Edmund 0 Bolton 8c 204

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Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
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WILD Edmund 0 Sheffield 9c 233


So, the Gateshead and Sheffield Edmund Wild's are out of the equation.
I also think we can discount the Edmund Wilde born in Bolton - probably a mis-spelling by the registrar that registered the death.

That just leaves these two as the 1890/1891 Edmunds would be too young:-

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
Wilde Edmund Shoreditch 1c 129
Wilde Edmund Hatfield Northallerton 9d _35

thanks to you all for your help ...i am now not sure of grandfathers name. i also have seen 2 isabells in 1901 census. both born oxhill co durham. where my mother jessie did live for sure . 1 isabell [s ]aged 3. the other aged 10 . there also is a isabella aged 63 oxhill . now confused over isabells as well as grandfather thanks again ed

The only way to be certain is to buy your mother's birth certificate - the details have already been given for this.

Kath. x

isabella wild has husband edmund james on her grave stone [[ i got william wrong ]] now looking for edmund thanks again to all ed

This looks like the birth of their children:-

Name: Abraham T Wilde
Mother's Maiden Surname: Trueman
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1917
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration county: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 498

Name: Edmund J Wilde
Mother's Maiden Surname: Trueman
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1920
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration county: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 671

Name: Frederick Wilde
Mother's Maiden Surname: Trueman
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1925
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration county: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 533

Name: Ronald Wilde
Mother's Maiden Surname: Trueman
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1929
Registration district: Lanchester
Registration county: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 477

Kath. x