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Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:25

I am trying to find any birth info on Fredeick Lee. I have been told he was born c 1906 in Richmond North Yorks. His mothers maiden name would be Cockerill. Mother and father married in knareborough 1905 and mother was from Richmond .. help

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:29

MMN isn't on the index until late 1911, so you would only be able to search using his name

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:31

I have also ruled out the F.Lee b 1903 in Ripon North Yorks

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:35

Younger brother?

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Lee Albert E Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1317

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:36

What were the full names of the parents?

Have you tried to find the family in 1911?

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:39

Yes Albert E Lee is the younger brother. Yes thats the marriage. She had not been maried before but Slater Lee appears to have died in WW1 between 1915 ( albert being made & born ) & 1917 because Ellen remarried in qtr4 1917 to Thomas Minnican in Richmond.

But that still does not give me Frederick lee. Help....

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Sep 2009 20:40

what about this one

Name: Fred Lee
Year of Registration: 1908
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 675

Roy

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:40

Yes tried the 1911 and Elen Elizabeth Lee ( Cockerill ) is show in Service in Shipley Yorks under her maiden name. Have found slater lee but cant remember - i ma looking through my notes now.

June

June Report 10 Sep 2009 20:42

Do you have marriage cert

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
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Clunas John William Knaresbro' 9a 171
Cockerill Ellen Knaresbro' 9a 171
DAVISON Edith Knaresbro' 9a 171
Lee Slater Knaresbro' 9a 171





1911

HOUSEHOLD LEE EDITH F 1883 28 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD LEE SLATER M 1882 29 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding






1911

HOUSEHOLD CLUNAS ELLEN F 1885 26 Knaresborough Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CLUNAS JOHN WILLIAM M 1878 33 Knaresborough Yorkshire West Riding





Ellen did not marry Slater Lee


June x

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:43

Slater Lee seen in Bramley West Riding in 1911 aged 29 ( b c 1882 )

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:44

Is this the one?

LEE SLATER M 1882 29 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding
LEE EDITH F 1883 28 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding
LEE MONICA F 1910 1 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding
LEE REGINALD LAWRENCE M 1906 5 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding
LEE STEWART M 1908 3 Bramley Yorkshire West Riding

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:47

I gather you didn't obtain the marriage certificate?

June

June Report 10 Sep 2009 20:47

Arthur Lee did not marry a Cockerill in 1906 ?



June x

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:49

No i dont have a marriege cert. but i know from the Minnican Descendants that Ellen Marred Slater Lee and found it in Knareborough 1905 on FreeBMD. Why can i not find Frederick Lee b 1906?

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 20:54

I have a living child of Ellen & second husband & other children from Ellens sisters that all say that Ellen Elizabeth Cockerill Married a Mr Lee and had 2 children frederick c 1906 and Albert E Lee 1915 before she remarried 1917 to thomas Minnican.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:55

Slater Lee married Edith Davison

Ellen Cockerill married Clunas

As demonstrated above by 1911 census postings..............

Child of the Clunas/Cockerill marriage

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Clunas James Cockerill Knaresbro 9a 172

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 10 Sep 2009 20:57

Marriages Dec 1917 (64%)
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Lee Ellen Minnican Richmond Y. 9d 1331
Minnican Thomas Lee Richmond Y. 9d 1331

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 21:00

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Minnican Thomas W L Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1101

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Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Minnican Vera I Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1317

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Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
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Minnican Joan Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1302
Minnican Norma Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1302

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Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
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Minnican Ella Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1195

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Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
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Minnican Raymond Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1060

Anthony

Anthony Report 10 Sep 2009 21:04

Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
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Minnican Derick Cockerill Richmond Y. 9d 1033

unless i am getting this wrong. Derick is living and this does not make sense. Ellen Elizabeth Cockerill/Lee married Minnican 1917 and had those children. So where did it go wrong

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Sep 2009 21:09

Just one thing i have noticed,
If Ellen Elizabeth Cockerill married a Mr lee before getting married to Mr Minnican then the marriage would be registed under

Ellen Elizabeth Lee and Mr Minnican and on the marriage cert it would have her maiden and any other previous names.

sometimes the entry would show spouse as Lee or
Cockerill

also did you dis-count the Fred Lee birth in 1908 that i posted on page one

Roy