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1861 and 71 census' Wales

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Denise

Denise Report 17 Sep 2009 14:25

Does anyone know if these records are fully up to date? I have been trying to trace the harrington's for days, I have them 1851 and 1881 1891 1901, but there is a gap for 61 and 71. I have tried both parents and all children born. I have also tried variations on the surname. I know they were in risca in 51 and machen in 1881.
Any advice would be grateful.
Denise

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 14:29

Denise, why not put the details you have on here? Happy to have a look, as I'm sure others will be.
Jan

Denise

Denise Report 17 Sep 2009 14:39

Janet, thanks for your reply, Do you mean in the message? I have james (born nantyglo) and sarah harrington both born around 1823 married 1844.
This is what I have:-
1851 census living Risca Main age 28 Brick maker with wife Sarah and children William 7, Margaret 4, George 3, Jane 1.
1861 ?
1871 ?
1872 list as father on son George harrington marriage cert
1881 living FFwrwm Upper Machen age 61 with wife sarah and children james 21, benjamin 17, elizabeth 16, sarah jane rees granddaughter 11 and william g rees grandson 9
1891 census living panty inn, machen age 78 (not sure should be 78 maybe 68) with wife sarah age 68, children james 29, sarah, 20 and grandson william g rees age 19
Denise

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2009 14:52

1851 just for info
Name: James Harrington
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Nanty Glo, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Risca
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Disability: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: St Woollos
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
James Harrington 28
Sarah Harrington 28 Machen
William Harrington 7 Risca
Margaret Harrington 4 Risca
George Harrington 3 Risca
Jane Harrington 1 Risca

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 14:55

I see your problem Denise! Will have a go, hopefully others will do so too and between us solve this.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 14:58

Maybe daughter Jane in 1871?


1871 Wales Census

Name: Jane Harrington
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Risca, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish: St Mary
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
E
Elizabeth Fitzgerald 25
Susan Pollard 22
Jane Harrington 20
Francis Dunne 19
Elizabeth Bartlett 27
Elizabeth Bartlett 11

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 15:00

Not sure about this - will delete if definitely wrong:

1871 Wales Census

Name: James Harrington
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Mantygle, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil parish: Upper Machen
Town: Upper Machen
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Mynyddyslwyn

James Harrington 49
Sarah Harrington 48
George Harrington 23
Sarach Harrington 17
Humphry Harrington 15
James Harrington 12
Bengeman Harrington 10
Elizabeth Harrington 7

Note - Sarah born Risca

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2009 15:02

Janet

Was just looking at that 1871 - occupation is brick maker so looks promising

GB

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 15:04

Gl;itterbaby, thanks - have just edited above to say sarah born Risca, which makes it a possibility.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2009 15:07

Not found them in 1861

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 15:09

Me neither. Either hopelessly mis-transcribed or not there. Not giving up just yet!
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2009 15:10

Not found them in 1861 using Findmypast either

Denise

Denise Report 17 Sep 2009 15:15

Thats fantastic, how did you find the 71 census, I can see that there are some spelling mistakes which is maybe why I couldn't find it eg Mantygle should be Nantyglo and sarah and benjamin are spelt wrong , but it looks like the correct family. I have tried all sorts of ways because of the spelling etc and I am so grateful to you.
Many many thanks
Denise

PS what website did you use?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Sep 2009 15:40

Just looked for James Harrington with wife Sarah, specified birth year but not place. Maybe you are putting in too much info, I find it pays to be quite general then refine details if you get too many results.
I used ancestry, I think glitterbaby used findmypast.
No luck with 1861 at all!!!
Jan

Denise

Denise Report 17 Sep 2009 19:12

Hi
Does that mean that differant web sites have differant information as the 71 census is not on genesreunited.
thanx

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Sep 2009 19:17

GR do not have the 1881 census as it is free nor the 1911 census for the other census you get redirected to other sites

Findmypast I think it better for transcriptions but I usually use Ancestry

Vicci

Vicci Report 18 Sep 2009 02:17

one of the children Benjamin was born Machen 1861

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
HARRINGTON Benjamin Newport M 11a 187 Scan available - click to view

so they should be there somewhere!
will keep looking!

Vicci

Vicci Report 18 Sep 2009 02:34

1871 their address is hard to read but could be Fwrwn (in Machen)

using findmypast and looking at the street in Machen
I can't find them however there is this entry....

153 THIS SCHEDULE WAS LEFT FOR A PARTY FROM HOME AND HAVE NOT RETURNED ON 8 APRIL###

Would be typical if that was them!

1861 Census
Fwrwm, Machen
Newport, Monmouthshire
RG09 piece 4027 folio 87 page 27

Denise

Denise Report 18 Sep 2009 10:05

Thank you all so much, at least I have something to go on, my luck it is entry 153 !!!. I am going to order Benjamins birth cert so at least it will show registered address. I think it will be Machen and not Risca as in 51.
Again thank you all so much.
Denise

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 18 Sep 2009 11:04

might this one be a relative - baptisms at Machen

19 Jan 1868
Wm John s/o Wm & Mary Ann Harrington, Machen Upper, brick maker

same date
Fredk s/o Wm & Mary Ann Harrington, Machen Upper, brick maker

28 May 1878
Sarah Ann d/o Wm & Mary Ann Harrington, Machen, brick maker