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Anne Gladys Stembridge

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Tracey

Tracey Report 1 Dec 2009 17:33

Unable to find birth record, according to her death certificate she was born 30th August 1894, also cannot find her on the 1891 or 1901 census, Thankyou Tracy

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Dec 2009 17:38

Have you any idea of location please Tracey? And do you have a marriage cert, and her father's name?
I agree she is tricky!

There is this:
1901 England Census

Name: Annie Stembridge
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Barnsbury

Thomas Stembridge 45
Ellen Stembridge 45
William T Stembridge 23
James B Stembridge 21
Ellen J Stembridge 13
Mabel Stembridge 11
Annie Stembridge 6

Jan

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Dec 2009 17:41

Do you know who her parents were? Did she get married? If so when, where and to whom?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 17:42

EDIT for anyone reading the thread -- the name is

ANNIE STEMBRIDGE (not Anne)

and Stembridge is the birth surname, married Buck.


The surname when she died? i.e. was she married? Is Stembridge thought/known to be her birth surname? If not, that's what's needed.

Finding the marriage could help find the birth.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Dec 2009 17:43

Just on the off-chance!!

Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
Stembridge Gladys Evelyn St. Saviour 1d 112

Jan

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 17:45

for the one in 1901:

Births Dec 1894
Stembridge Annie Pancras 1b 44

Could match DOB on death cert.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Dec 2009 18:41

PM from Tracey:

Thanks Jan, this information looks promising, but I cannot find this on the census, how did you? She married Edward Buck who i know was born in the london area in 1891.

Jan

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Dec 2009 18:49

PM from Tracey

she was born stembridge, I dont know who her parents were, she married my grandad edward buck who was born in 1891 but I cant figure out him on the census records and I dont know when they were married.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Dec 2009 18:51

This could be their marriage

Marriages Jun 1912
Buck Edward A Stembridge Islington 1b 675
STEMBRIDGE Annie Buck Islington 1b 675

It looks like she was called Annie

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Dec 2009 18:56

There are these births which could be possible children from the marriage

Births Jun 1912
BUCK Edward A S Stembridge Brentford 3a 218
Births Mar 1915
Buck Gladys A Stembridge Islington 1b 339
Births Sep 1920
Buck Doris M Stembridge Islington 1b 724


Do the children and Islington area ring any bells?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 1 Dec 2009 19:00

There are a few Edward Bucks born around 1891 but this one is born in Islington which would fit in with the info

Name: Edward Buck
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas Pentonville
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Amwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 399
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Buck 41b Islington occ House Painter
Mary A Buck 43 b St Pancras
Annie Buck 15 b Clerkenwell occ Milliner's assistant
Alice Buck 12
>>>>Edward Buck 9
Kate Buck 5

Rest of children born Islington

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 19:27

And then there's the separate thread about Edward Buck

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1191904


Tracey, would you post in the thread here -- use the purple Reply button -- and offer ALL the info you have? About both people. It makes far more sense to combine the searches.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 19:34

Tracey, please. I really don't want to have to go fetch info from my inbox and bring it back here and copy it into the thread here. (Like most such private messages, yours doesn't even have a name in it, so if I happened not to have seen it until tomorrow, I would have been searching around my threads list to figure out what it was about ...)

Please use the purple REPLY button at the top of the thread and add a post here with the info you sent me!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 19:58

I just read Lesley's thread on Tips pointing out that Ancestry's 1984-2005 deaths index is now the whole thing, *1916* to 2005.


Name: Annie Gladys Buck
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: Q1-Jan-Feb-Mar 1979
Registration district: Hereford
Inferred County: Hereford & Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 0320


So now we know that her name WAS Annie, and not Anne as the header says, and as we have all been searching for.

Of course, Tracey could have given that info some time ago ...


So as I said:

Births Dec 1894
Stembridge Annie Pancras 1b 44

Could match DOB on death cert.


And the name.


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 20:00

And Edward's death, I presume:


Name: Edward Arthur Buck
Birth Date: 2 Sep 1891
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1988
Age at death (estimated): 97
Registration district: Hereford
Inferred County: Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 29
Page: 362


Likely making him the one posted above:

Births Sep 1891
Buck Edward Holborn 1b 673


Both seem to have adopted middle names not in their birth registrations.

Tracey

Tracey Report 1 Dec 2009 20:14

Hi everyone, sorry i am a novice at this! I do appreciate all your help but still finding the results confusing as unable to connect their births to 1901 census information to be sure who they are! thanks Tracy

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 20:18

1911 census

STEMBRIDGE ANNIE 1894 17 Islington London
GARTERS ELLEN JUBILEE 1888 23 Islington London
GARTERS THOMAS WILLIAM GEORGE 1910 1 Islington London


Ellen Garters would be the sister Ellen J Stembridge who was 13 in the 1901 census.

No apparent marriage for her, however.


Births Mar 1910
GARTERS Thomas William G Islington 1b 170


Here we are:

Marriages Jun 1909
GARTERS Thomas William Islington 1b 421
HEMBRIDGE Ellen Jubilee Islington 1b 421


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Dec 2009 20:24

Tracey -- the only way to connect a birth to a census record is to get the birth certificate that shows the same parents as are in the census household!

But you start with what you know. In this case, it is the marriage of Annie and Edward. You get that marriage certificate, and it gives you both spouses' fathers' names and occupations, as well as the spouses' ages.

We all have to do that. Certificates are the only reliable links in a chain. You order them here:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


You have to know *something* about these people or you wouldn't be looking for them!!

A sibling's name, a child's name ...?

There has got to be something you can tell us about them other than when Annie died and whom she married. And it likely would have saved a lot of blind man's buff here.

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 1 Dec 2009 20:31

Does this help?

Thomas William Garters
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Ellen Jubilee Stembridge
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 May 1909
Parish: Saint Stephen
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Thomas William Garters
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Stembridge

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Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Stephen, Islington, Register of marriages, P83/STE2, Item 014

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 1 Dec 2009 20:33

The marriage above:

Thomas was a seaman and his father was a bricklayer.

Ellen was a domestic servant and her father was a cellarman.

Address for both is 116 Cottenham Road.

Wits:
Arthur Sidney Barnard
Mable Stembridge
Thomas Stembridge.


If Ellen is Anne's sister then you may be able to find the family in 1901.

Jill