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I didn't mention a marriage what I have for 05/12/1846 is the birth of Thomas and Ellen's son William.

I have looked now though and what is recorded is the proclaiming of Banns for Thomas Lennie of Errol and Helen Fletcher of Kettins the Banns were read 1st and 2nd on 23rd Nov 1845 and 3rd on 30th November 1845

Sorry Aileen,

Mis-read your information.

Will delete that posting.

Edit:

Yes, I thought the dates may turn out to be Banns.

Here is the 1851 census ... verifying the big age gap between Thomas and Helen.


1851 Scotland Census
about Thomas Lennie
Name: Thomas Lennie
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Tippermoui, Perthshire
Parish Number: 338
Civil parish: Cargill
County: Perthshire
Address: Stobhall Lodge
Occupation: Farm Labourer
ED: 1
Page: 7 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_73
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lennie 47
Helen Lennie 26 (Born: Kettins)
William Lennie 4
Thomas Lennie 2
Janet Lennie 3 Mo


And the birth record for Helen Fletcher with the parents from the death certificate.

Helen Fletcher
Birth: 15th December 1823
Christening: 28th December 1823
Collace, Perth

Father: George Fletcher
Mother: Margaret Moncur

Death for daughter Joan

1894 LENNIE JOAN OLIPHANT F 42 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

I have been unable to find Joan on any census return so far

thanks for all the info will be of great use to me
thanks again.
melody.x

hi aileen, was wondering if you could help me again please am lookind for the children of richard lennie he married a maggie manning on 29/02/1884 i know they had 1 daughter called helen lennie born 27/02/1885. i know richard lennie died on 03/09/1914 but would like to find out what other children they had any help will be much appreciated
many thanks
melody.x

1891 census for Richard

Name: Richard Lennie
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Maggie
Gender: Male
Where born: Cargill, Perthshire
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 157 Buccleuch St
Occupation: Carter
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 56
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1891_274
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Lennie 29
Maggie Lennie 28
James Lennie 7
Nellie Lennie 6
Maggie Lennie 5
Christina Lennie 3
Mary Lennie 2
Jemima Lennie 6 Mths

1901 census

Name: Richard Lennie
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Maggie
Gender: Male
Where born: Cargill, Perthshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow MacLeod
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 4 Murray St
Occupation: Grain Merchant Carter
ED: 18
Household schedule number: 74
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_286
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Lennie 39
Maggie Lennie 38
Janie Lennie 17...........this is not correct....should be James
Nellie Lennie 4mo.......this is not correct....should be 16yrs
Maggie Lennie 14
Christine Lennie 13
Mary Lennie 2..........this is not correct....should be 12yrs
Jemmia Lennie 11
Thomas Lennie 9
Robert Lennie 7
William Lennie 4

Just in case you don't know Nellie is the diminutive form of Helen

I have looked at the original census and the changes I have noted are correct

James may have been born before the marriage......I can't find a birth for him in Auchterarder where the census says he was born. He is not listed there under Lennie or Manning

thanks aileen very much appreciated.
best wishes
mel.x

hi aileen
could you please help me? am looking for the death of maggie lennie (richard lennies wife) any help would be much appreciated
kind regards
melody.x

1924 LENNIE MARGARET MANNING F 60 CADDER (EASTERN) /LANARK

Margaret Lennie widow of Richard Lennie (Carter) died 18/06/1914 at Gartloch Sanitorium (usual residence Glasgow) aged 60 daughter of Michael (China Merchant) and Margaret Manning ms O'Brien....both deceased

thanks aileen much appreciated
regards
melody.x