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Hello, I am trying to find a Euginie Jouval, I can't find any bith or death but found a marriage and she had a child John. Would love to know if any one know's anything about the name.

Have you googled

Mind the spelling! Just to place her:

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Jouvel Eugenie Evans Reading 2c 1226

will have to try that, thank's Julie

any dates to help here?

the surname doesn't appear on the surname website

I found her marriage, and her son was born in 1920, but there is no trace afterwards

Well done finding this!

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
EVANS John R YOUVAL Reading 2c 735

this is the right one, but can't find out anymore, where she lived or if she moved to another country, not on cenus, her father was Theophile Youval

Presumably she is French?

Not helpful really but these are Jouvals at least!

JOUVAL, A D Head Married M 41 1870 Chef France Resident VIEW
JOUVAL, E Wife Married
16 years F 44 1867 Herefordshire Ashperton VIEW
JOUVAL, H D Son M 10 1901 School London VIEW
JOUVAL, A J Daughter F 13 1898 School London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4828 Reference:
RG14PN4828 RG78PN208 RD71 SD2 ED16 SN96

Registration District:
Eastbourne Sub District:
Eastbourne Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Eastbourne

Address:
58 Tideswell Road Eastbourne County:
Sussex

Presumably she came over at some point, I wonder if there are passenger lists which might help?

Jan

found this - 1881

Theophil JOUVAL Self M Male W 33 FRANCE Millinery Goods FRANCE FRANCE
Louise JOUVAL Wife M Female W 31 FRANCE FRANCE SWITZERLAND
Louise GAMBET Dau S Female W 3 MA FRANCE MA
Jane GAMBET MotherL W Female W 58 SWITZERLAND At Home SWITZERLAND SWITZERLAND
Jane GAMBET SisterL S Female W 27 FRANCE At Home FRANCE SWITZERLAND


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Source Information:
Census Place Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Family History Library Film 1254561
NA Film Number T9-0561

20. Jean Baptiste Jouval - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 29 JUN 1815 Renwez, Ardennes, France

21. JEAN-PIERRE JOUVAL - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 13 JUL 1823 Raillicourt, Ardennes, France

22. JEAN BAPTISTE JOUVAL - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Christening: 14 FEB 1824 Les Mazures, Ardennes, France

23. JEAN BAPTISTE JOUVAL - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Christening: 16 MAY 1825 Raillicourt, Ardennes, France

24. JEAN JOUVAL - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Marriage: 18 OCT 1825 Delut, Meuse, France

The Theophil Jouval 1848 whom Ann o' GG found in 1880 is in the 1910 US census with son Philippe. The name has been corrected from "Pheophill F Jorral".

I wonder whether the correction was made by a user who could be contacted? I don't have access to look. The name is just kind of coincidental, and even if not directly related, a related person might know something about the name.

There are also Jouvals in the US censuses born in Canada, but I see no Jouvals in Canada 1901 or 1911 at automatedgenealogy or in any Canadian census at ancestry.ca.

This is a useful site:

http://www.geopatronyme.com/

It's in French but fairly easy to understand (I think; I'm fluent in French so it's hard for me to say!).

84 JOUVALs were born in France between 1891 and 1915 -- these are all aggregate numbers, not individual names, but it gives you an idea, it's fairly rare.

The name was concentrated in the southeast of France in that period.

It's also worth just googling. There are a few Jouvals on MySpace and Facebook.

http://www.geneanet.org/genealogie/fr/jouval.html

I don't know how reliable or useful that site is, but it seems to have loads of people with Jouval family trees, and a contactable genealogist named Jouval.

Thank you all for your help, will try to see if they do lead me anywhere, I did think she might have come over from France as I know her husband was over there in the war, but I know they were not together in 1925/6 as he remarried but don't know what happened to her or their son. Thanks again

Thank you for your help on Euginie Jouval, but sadly I haven't found any leads, but will keep trying.
Thanks again
Christine

Marriages Jun 1919
Evans Richard C Jouval Reading 2c 1226
Jouvel Eugenie Evans Reading 2c 1226

Births Mar 1895
Evans Richard Charles Reading 2c 367


SADLY
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Richard Charles Evans
Birth Date: 5 Feb 1895
Death Registration Month/Year: 1981
Registration district: Reading & Wokingham
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 0259

"""""""but I know they were not together in 1925/6 as he remarried but don't know what happened to her or their son""""""

Did Charles Richard Evans remarry as a widower or a divorcee ??



Z

PS do you know Simon on GR family tree ?

Eugenie 1895 ?France Simon

Hello, Richard Charles Evans remarried in 1926 and said he was a bachelor aged 31, not a divorcee or widower. Euginie has her age as 22 when she married Richard. So 1895 France could be a possible, but would love to know where in France and see if she left the country.

Hello there,
I have been trying to find Euginie Jouval pos born in France 1895 she married in 1919 to Richard Evans and had a son in1920, but can't find out what happened to her or their son John. Have tried to make sense of French records to find out where she might have been born, but can't find her. Don't speak French and finding it hard to know what to do now. If anyone can help me it would be a big help. Please .....Help

Have you tried to contact the GR member who has Eugenie Jouval born 1895 in ?France in his tree, as mentioned by zoe? Or perhaps this is someone you are already in contact with.

Others do need to know what leads you have followed and what the results are, to try to help.


This is the son John:

Births Sep 1920
EVANS John R YOUVAL Reading 2c 735

Have you obtained the birth certificate? If so, what is his exact date of birth?

Death records after about 1969 state the date of birth in the GRO index (if it was known to the person who reported the death).

Even though his was a common name, if he died in England/Wales, it could be possible to identify his death by the birthdate.