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Thanks everyone.
I am new to the mesage boards so i hope this is how you reply.

Hi Brian,

Yes your reply is the correct way.

Dee x

If Robert marrried under the name Ryle, would that name not have to be used on the census for their children?

Hi Brian,

for some reason in 1881 the family were just using the Ryle name, as and why is any ones guess, but previously they were using Bagnall and then reverted back to Bagnall in 1891.


Dee x

Here you go;


Groom's Name: Robertum Ryle
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mariam Quinn
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 29 Jun 1889
Marriage Place: St. Cuthbert'S, Durham, Durham, England
Groom's Father's Name: Roberti Ryle
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Thomae Quinn
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01881-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2082452
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973



Dee x

Here's Roberts' father and mother in 1861 prior to any children;

1861 England Census about Robert Ryle
Name: Robert Ryle
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne Bykre
Civil parish: Durham St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: Belmont
Town: New Durham
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Ryle 25
Margaret Ryle 26


I will try and see if I can sort out why the changing of the surname.


Dee x

I think this is the parents marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
>>>>>>>>>>Bagnall Robert Sunderland 10a 425
>>>>>>>>>>Briggs Margaret Sunderland 10a 425
Fairless Margaret Ann Sunderland 10a 425
Nelson William Scott Sunderland 10a 425


The 1861 census has the Ryle couple living a couple of doors away from Daglish Briggs.............. now Daglish is in a couple of Robert and Mary's children's names.


Dee x

Thanks again everyone for all your help
Brian