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Thomas Embleton (b.c1831 England) and Sarah ??? (b.c 1832 England) married in 1850 Newcastle-on-Tyne, arrived in Victoria, Australia 1856. I believe they settled in Ballarat . They had three children. Sarah petitioned for divorce in c1871. I would appreciate some help in finding out when and where they died and the names of their parents.
Lyne

This is the website for Victoria BDM, they charge you to look at an entry 0.99c AUS
online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action

I can find no marriage for a Thomas Embleton, Thomas Emb*, or Embleton in Newcastle-on-Tyne in 1850



Do you have their marriage registration?




sylvia

This couple may have married in 1850

1851
Name: Thomas Embleton
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Embleton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Petton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester
ED, institution, or vessel: 11b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Embleton 21
Ellen Embleton 18
Robert Embleton 1 MO
Elizabeth Mills 18


Marriages Jun 1850 (>99%)
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Embleton Thomas Newcastle T 25 428
Richardson Ellen Newcastle T 25 428

Hi, have found a family arriving Melbourne july 14, 1856.
Thomas Embleton, Eleanor, Robert, Elizabeth and Mary Hannah,
on ship Mindon.
then looked up divorce notice for Embleton...found Eleanor embleton petitioned against Thomas Embleton.
I don't know if they are your family,
kind regards, Lorraine in sunny Mackay Qld

and there was I looking for an Embleton mariage to a Sara*

The Thomas and Ellen ( Eleanor ) EMBLETON seen on the 1851 Census that Jax found, can be seen arriving in Victoria, Australia..... in 1856 on the ship MINDORO.

There was also a Robert EMBLETON aged 34( poss related ) to Thomas. Maybe an older brother perhaps?


Un-assisted passengers to Victoria ( 1856 )
EMBLETON THOS age 25 JUL 1856 Ship: MINDORO B 110 004
EMBLETON ELEANOR age 23 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
EMBLETON ROBT age 5 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
EMBLETON ELIZTH age 3 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
EMBLETON MARY HANNAH age I JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
EMBLETON ROBT age 34 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004



Cant see a Thomas and a Sarah EMBLETON arrival to Victoria around 1856.




Tony ( Victoria )

a possibilty for Thomas and Robert in 1841, bearing in mind the roudning down of ages on the 1841 census

1841 Census

Name: Thomas Embleton
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Tynemouth
Hundred: Castle (East Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields

Robert Embleton 60 Coal Miner
Hannah Embleton 50
Robert Embleton 18 Coal Miner
Hannah Embleton 20
Thomas Embleton 12 Coal Miner
George Embleton 11 Coal Miner
Isabella Embleton 4

Address:- Whitehill Parish


just a suggestion




sylvia

???? births of the children on the shipping passenger list, from www.freebmd.org.uk


Births Mar 1851 (>99%)

Embleton Robert Chester le Street 24 44


Births Dec 1852 (>99%)

Embleton Elizabeth Chester le Street 10a 246


Births Dec 1854 (>99%)

Embleton Mary Hannah Chester le St. 10a 270





although I have to say that Embleton is quite a common name in that area of the country. There was even an Embleton Hall, and a village called Embleton, apparently.




sylvia

Marriage of Thomas Embleton and Eleanor

from www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records


record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Thomas Embleton
bride's name: Ellen Richardson
marriage date: 23 Jun 1850
marriage place: Saint Nicholas, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
groom's father's name: Robert Embleton
bride's father's name: John Richardson
indexing project (batch) number: M15605-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1068905



children????????


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Robert Embleton
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 May 1851
baptism/christening place: Chester-le-Street, Durham, England
father's name: Thomas Embleton
mother's name: Eleanor Embleton
indexing project (batch) number: C00759-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894222



name: Mary Hannah Embleton
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Dec 1854
baptism/christening place: Chester-le-Street, Durham, England
father's name: Thomas Embleton
mother's name: Ellen Embleton
indexing project (batch) number: C00759-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1894222




can't find Elizabeth's baptism on there



sylvia

Have just checked Victorian Colonial Newspapers.

The article does mention a Sarah?. Unless its a typo error!!

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954) Wednesday 20 September 1871

EMBLETON V. EMBLETON. ( as written )
This was a petition by Sarah Embleton for a dissolution of her marriage with her husband Thomas Embleton, on the ground of adultery and desertion.
Mr. Molesworth, for petitioner ; no appear- ance for respondent,
Petitioner and respondent were married at Newcastle-on-Tyne in 1850. In 1856 they came to this country, where they have since resided. In 180G Embleton ill-treated his wife, and beat her so severely that she went away to her father's. Her husband aftorwards refused to take her back, and in 1867 he lived with a girl named Walsh, by whom ho had a child. He had since left that girl, who, it wns stated, was recently married. The petition, besides asking for a dissolution of marriage, prayed that Mrs. Embleton might be allowed to keep her children, who were li, 14, and 7 years respectively.

I guess we have to wait for Lynette to return and tell us the names of the children, and then we will know if we have found the corect family




sylvia

Cant see a death for a Thomas EMBLETON in Victoria.


Might be worth considering that this surname could also be seen as EMBELTON....in Australia

This "appears" to be a death for Elizabeth in 1865...but surname spelt as EMBELTON

EMBELTON, Elizabeth CD 267478 Death
Father: Thomas
Mother: Unknown Ellen
Birthplace: Durh ( poss Durham )
Reg Year: 1865
Reg State: Victoria
Ref Number: 3044




The Newspaper article states......... "severely that she went away to her father's"


Perhaps her parents had arrived here also.?

Burials at Ballaarat Cemetery from http://ballaratcemeteries.com.au/php/search.php

EMBELTON ELIZABETH 10 4/05/1865 [dau of Thos & Ellen, as above]
EMBELTON THOMAS WILLIAM 6 19/03/1875 [? Death reg as Thos Wilkinson EMBELTON aged 5, son of George & Mary Ann nee WILKINSON]
EMBELTON WILLIAM THOMAS 3 2/04/1867 [son of Tho & Helen]
EMBLETON MARGARET 8MTHS 27/03/1858 [dau of Geo & Mary Ann]
EMBLETON ROBERT 9MTHS 11/03/1865 [son of Robt & Jane]
EMBLETON THOMAS 11MTH 16/03/1861 [son of Geo & Mary Ann]

Thos EMBELTON and Helen RICHARDSON had twins in Ballarat in 1864 (Helen & Wm Thos - his death in 1867 aged 3 above).

From immigration, the two surviving chn's marriage:

Surname: EMBELTON
Given Names: Robert
Event: M
Spouse Surname: MOORE
Spouse Gvn Names: Elizabeth
Birth Place: DURHAM
Year: 1881
Reg Number: 2487

Surname: EMBELTON
Given Names: Mary Hannah
Event: M
Spouse Surname: HILLS
Spouse Gvn Names: Geo Hy
Birth Place: DURHAM
Year: 1889
Reg. Number: 4829

This death?

Surname: EMBLETON
Given Names: Thos
Event: D
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN
Age: 70
Death Place: Long Gully
Year: 1896
Reg. Number: 6574

This fits mother as Ellen/Helen, for Robert b. 1851:

Surname: EMBLETON
Given Names: Robert
Father: Embleton Thomas
Mother: Helen RICHARDSON
Death Place: MELB S
Age: 79
Year: 1931
Reg Number: 10711
Event: D

The Argus, Tuesday 8 September 1931, p.1
EMBELTON-On the 4th September (suddenly), at his residence, 149 Canterbury road, Middle Park, Robert, the dearly loved only brother of Mary (Mrs. G. H. Hills) and Helen (deceased), and cousin of Mr W. Richardson, J.P., Malvern.
Peace perfect peace


and for Helen born in Vic 1867:

Surname: EMBELTON
Given Names: Helen
Father: Embelton Thos
Mother: Helen RICHARDSON
Death Place: ST KILDA
Age: 59
Year: 1924
Reg Number: 3506
Event: D

The Argus, Tuesday 18 March 1924, p.1
EMBELTON.- On the 11th March, at her residence, Koonda, 25 Canterbury road, St. Kilda, Helen, the dearly beloved sister of Robert and Mary Hannah (Mrs G. H. Hills) (Interred privately at Brighton Cemetery, March 13.)

This age is 10 yrs out...

Surname: HILLS
Given Names: Mary Hannah
Father: Embleton Thomas
Mother: Unknown RICHARDSON
Death Place: KEW
Age: 69
Year: 1934
Reg Number: 1746
Event: D

See http://www.brightoncemetery.com/ for Helens' burial - perhaps her mother and/or father are there too. Robert is buried at Fawkner with several others but not his parents unfortunately. See http://www.fcmp.com.au/

Death notices from trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper

Wonder if this is Helen's family also on the Mindoro, i.e. Jno P & Eliz as her parents? (noting that the marriage Sylvia found showed her father as John Richardson):

Family Name First Name Age Month Year Ship Port Fiche Page
RICHARDSON JNO P 47 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON ELIZTH 43 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON JAMES 21 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON JANE 20 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON JNO P 17 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON THOS 19 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON HENRY 9 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004
RICHARDSON ISABELLA 7 JUL 1856 MINDORO B 110 004

Likely marriage for Jno P jnr:

Surname: RICHARDSON
Given Names: John Pearson
Event: M
Spouse Surname: CLAPPERTON
Spouse Gvn Names: Barbara
Birth Place: DURHAM
Year: 1870
Reg Number: 402

He died in Ballarat in 1899 aged 59. His mother was Elizabeth ROBSON.

Jno Pearson RICHARDSON snr died in 1892 in Ballarat aged 83, son of Hy & Elizabeth.

Cherilyn


thank you for that newspaper site ... I've made a note of it.


I have quite a few rellies emigrated to OZ in the 1840s and 1850s.

Maybe I'll get some hints for my own research!!



sylvia