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Michael
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1 Feb 2011 00:00 |
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Can anyone help with this enquiry?
Hephazibah - this spelling seems correct, although the Census makes a "pigs ear" of it down the years - was born 1850 in Hastings/ Battle, Sussex.
She "Married" Frederick Wenham and they had children. BUT i can't find either a marriage entry or a birth entry for her?? HELP!!
Michael.
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1 Feb 2011 00:05 |
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It would help if you could give details of the info you found on the censuses down the years... and the childrens names and dates too.
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1 Feb 2011 00:11 |
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Births Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Wenham Ellen Louise Y Uxbridge 3a 31
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daughters birth
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jax
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1 Feb 2011 00:13 |
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poss
Births Mar 1849 (>99%)
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PAGE Hepzibah Battle 7 305
not to sure of this one as there is a death in 1890
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1 Feb 2011 00:16 |
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For reference
Household:1881
Frederick WENHAM Head M Male 31 London Bethnal Green , London, Middlesex, England General Dealer
Ferhibar ? WENHAM Wife M Female 30 Hastings ?, Essex, England
Florence WENHAM Daughter U Female 8 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Ellen WENHAM Daughter U Female 5 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Ada WENHAM Daughter U Female 3 Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Ellen CARDER Visitor U Female 53 Islington, Middlesex, England
Dwelling Vine Street
Census Place Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
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1 Feb 2011 00:21 |
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Children's birth cert would be the way to go
Births Mar 1873
Wenham Florence Young - Uxbridge 3a 34
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chrissiex
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1 Feb 2011 00:21 |
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interesting coincidence
Marriages Dec 1868
Britt John Alfred Battle 2b 85
French Susan Battle 2b 85
Huggett Hephzibah Battle 2b 85 ?
Wenham James Robert Battle 2b 85 ?
it's around the right time and right place
but definitely the children's birth certificate is the way to go
chrissie x
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1 Feb 2011 00:25 |
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About the right age but Born Middlesex
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Births Sep 1851
Huggett Hepzibah - St Lukes 2 332
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jax
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1 Feb 2011 00:27 |
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1861 says born Battle so looks good
Name: Hephzibah Huggett
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Huggett
Mother's name: Hannah Huggett
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Huggett 42
Hannah Huggett 42
Herbert Huggett 19
Frederick Huggett 16
Hephzibah Huggett 12
Ambrose Huggett 10
Henry Huggett 9
Ellen Huggett 8
Emma Huggett 6
Fanny Huggett 4
George Huggett 2
Luihan Huggett 1
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1 Feb 2011 00:28 |
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???????????????????
Births Mar 1849
HARDING Hephzibah Anna - Hastings 7 424
EDIT.
No ..... this looks like her marriage
Marriages Dec 1870 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BUMSTEAD Albert John Hastings 2b 39
Ernsting John Lowe Hastings 2b 39
Harding Hepzibah Anna - Hastings 2b 39
Pelford Elizabeth Hastings 2b 39
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chrissiex
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1 Feb 2011 00:33 |
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the only birth in Hastings that could match
Births Mar 1849
HARDING Hephzibah Anna Hastings 7 424
Marriages Dec 1870
BUMSTEAD Albert John Hastings 2b 39
Ernsting John Lowe Hastings 2b 39 <<<
Harding Hepzibah Anna Hastings 2b 39 <<<
Pelford Elizabeth Hastings 2b 39
in 1871
Name: Hepzibah A Ernsting
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John L Ernsting ......... tailor born in Hastings abt 1851
Gender: Female
Where born: Hastings, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: Hastings
County/Island: Sussex
Births Jun 1850
Ernsting John Sowe Hastings 7 425
but no death for him or for Hephzibah Ernsting ?
HepHzibah really is an unuzsal spelling. with the middle H
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chrissiex
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1 Feb 2011 00:35 |
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so my first guess is the one everyone likes, lol ?
Marriages Dec 1868
Britt John Alfred Battle 2b 85
French Susan Battle 2b 85
Huggett Hephzibah Battle 2b 85 ?
Wenham James Robert Battle 2b 85 ?
are we looking at travellers of some variety, general dealer in 1881 .......... ?
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Michael
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1 Feb 2011 00:40 |
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Cheers People!!!!
Will obviously need time to digest all this info, but it looks GOOD at 1st glance.
M.
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1 Feb 2011 00:40 |
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James Robert Wenham--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 18 NOV 1846 All Saints, Hastings, Sussex, England
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Parents:
Father: James Wenham
Mother: Eliza
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Deaths Sep 1869
Wenham James Robert - 23 - Hastings 2b 10
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chrissiex
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1 Feb 2011 00:40 |
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amazing coincidences
in 1871
is this Hep* Page?
Name: Hephzibah Wenham
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: London
County/Island: London
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Mudge 43
Rose E J Mudge 8
Caroline S Eldridge 42
Hephzibah Wenham 23 WIDOW
Emily C Page 18 unmarried
this has confused me ......... it looks like Hep* Page married a Wenham unless it is just a coincidence that Emily Page with her .........
no no I see I think ........ Wenham husband of Huggett died? and she lived with his brother maybe? and Emily Page is not related ..............
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chrissiex
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1 Feb 2011 00:45 |
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yes so far
Deaths Sep 1869
Wenham James Robert 23 Hastings 2b 10
oops Mike added that
was it still against the law to marry your dead husband's brother ? or was that just your dead wife's sister .............
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Mike *
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1 Feb 2011 00:49 |
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We are assuming that James and Frederick were brothers but I can't see a birth for Frederick Wenham c1850 Bethnal Green
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1 Feb 2011 00:50 |
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Just to confuse matters ....
Is this widow Mrs Wenham ?
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Marriages Mar 1876 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HARRIYOTT Emma Eastbourne 2b 93
Lewis Amos Eastbourne 2b 93
Mancer Henry Eastbourne 2b 93
Wenham Hephzibah Eastbourne 2b 93
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Household:1881
Henry MANSER Head M Male 27 Willingdon, Sussex, England Blacksmith
************** Hephizibah MANSER Wife M Female 25 Hellingly, Sussex, England
Edwin MANSER Son Male 4 Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Rosa MANSER Daur Female 2 Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Frederick MANSER Son Male 6 m Eastbourne, Sussex, England
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Michael
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1 Feb 2011 00:56 |
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Cheers again People XLNT effort!!
To use a "Loydism", having cogitated and conferred, I'm going with the Huggett connection.
Ta, Michael.
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1 Feb 2011 01:11 |
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Just to eliminate Miss Page born 1849 .....
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Household:1881
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Amelia HARRIS Head U Female 33 Yalding, Kent, England Greengrocer
Margarett ASHBY Friend U Female 52 Yalding, Kent, England
Mary GILBERT Cousin U Female 40 Yalding, Kent, England Assistant Greengrocer
************Hephsibah PAGE Cousin U Female 32 Bexhill, Sussex, England Dress Maker
David ASHBY Serv Male 14 East Farleigh, Kent, England Errand Boy
Frederick ROBINSON Boarder Male 13 Orpington, Kent, England Errand Boy
Dwelling 23 Market Place
Census Place Greenwich, Kent, England
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