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Michael it's very dangerous to "go with " any connection until you check out the children's birth certificates.

Bexhill is nowhere near Battle though if my memory serves me right


best go and google

jax

spose its near enough as I said earlier she died in 1890 anyway

Yes I think we can discount Miss Page.

There is this marriage but can't find a bride...


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Marriages Dec 1866
Wenman Frederick George - Greenwich 1d 1456

he is the one who is mistranscribed, Greenwich is in italics, so page number 1456 is wrong ........... well it's worse than that, there is no Frederick Wenman in the GRO index for oct nov dec 1866 quarter.

............ oh, but Wenman is not Wenham

Fred's mum and dad were William Wenham & luenda Weatherhead,
both from Norfolk.
As a bit of History, Will's maternal Grandad James Philo fought at Bunker Hill in the American War of Independence.

I agree that Heph seems to have "changed" horses, but unfortunately Fred drops off the radar between 1861 and 1881.

Looks like James Robert Wenham and Hepzibah had at least one child:-

from the new familysearch site www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Eliza Caroline Wenham
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1869
baptism/christening place: HASTINGS, ALL SAINTS, SUSSEX, ENGLAND
father's name: James Robert Wenham
mother's name: Hephzibah
indexing project (batch) number: C14807-3
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1067173




sylvia

and it looks as though she died in 1869

Births Mar 1869 (>99%)

Wenham Eliza Caroline Hastings 2b 22


Deaths Jun 1869 (>99%)

Wenham Eliza Caroline 0 Hastings 2b 14




sylvia

There is a Public Family Tree on ancestry that ahs James Robert Wenham's parents and siblings, as well as marriage to Hephzibah Huggett


James' were apparnetly James Wenham (1816 – 1852) and Eliza White (1817 – 1894)



No Frederick Wenman shown




sylvia

Is it possible that Frederick took HER name??????????


an early example of emancipation!





sylvia

Sylvia the same thought crossed my mind.

She was Mrs Wenham, so maybe she just called him her husband and he was assumed to be Mr Wenham.

that is absolutely possible, I found a friend's family in a census some time ago in exactly that situation, the widowed woman and her children were there under their surname and the man was shown as head of household with the same surname, and that was why my friend had never been able to find him.

....... so as Mike says maybe it was just an assumption and he was someone else completely.

....... except .......

Fred's mum and dad were William Wenham & luenda Weatherhead,
both from Norfolk.

and here they are in 1851

Name: Frederick Wenham
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Luenda Wenham
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Paddington, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Surrey

Luenda Wenham 40 married born Norfolk ...... i would say Luanda
William Wenham 19
Lucinda Wenham 16
Ellen Wenham 12
George Wenham 8
Elizabeth Wenham 6
Frederick Wenham 2
Henry North 19

I can't see a birth for Frederick though and do we know that is the same Frederick?

In 1891 there are three of them for example

Name: Frederick Wenham
Spouse: Hephayibah Wenham <<<
Birth: abt 1849 - London, England
Residence: 1891 - Uxbridge, Uxbridge, Middlesex, England

Name: Frederick Wenham
Spouse: Jane Wenham <<<
Birth: abt 1849 - Clerkenwell, London, England
Residence: 1891 - London, Shoreditch, London, England

Name: Frederick Wenham
Spouse: Laura Wenham <<<
Birth: abt 1850 - London, England
Residence: 1891 - Walthamstow, Essex, England

so I woudld be concerned about sorting them out

The link to Fred in the Tree i'm doing is thru Ada Wenham, b.1873, who appears in the 1881 Census along with sisters Florence b. 1876 & Ellen b.1878.
I follow your joint logic about a different Fred? But if this is so, where did the Fred of the 1851 Census disappear to?