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Resurrecting this thread as relevant stuff here already. I am trying to find out about Patt Gleeson who first appears on 1851 in Exeter devon. He says he was born Cork Ireland.

1851
Patt Gleeson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Betsey Gleeson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cork, Ireland
Civil Parish: Exeter St Mary Major
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Exeter
Sub-registration district: St Sidwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 313
Piece: 1868
Folio: 368
Page Number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Patt Gleeson 29
Betsey Gleeson 30
John Gleeson 4

My puzzle is I can find Betsey/Elizabeth with lots more children in 1861- but not Patt. I believe I have found a death for him in 1865.(Exeter,Devon)

But don't understand where he was in 1861. Eliabeth is still 'married' and down as head -but its crossed out and changed to wife- so presumedly he was absent-somewhere. I have tried typing -prisoner and inmate and patient -but cannot find him. Can anyone help please? On 1871 she is 'widow' so that ties up with a likely death in 1865. Many of the children die too - so I think possible he was in a hospital or something?
Also if anyone can direct me to irish records to find them before they came to england that would be great! (i have tried igi-but nothing)

Was alive in 1856!
Genuki Police Exeter

12 May Patrick Gleeson D/D & use of obs #22 Jas Wood #2 James Wood Supt Steel D Bench caution & discharge
rag-gatherer lang West Qtr
Exeter

have to pop out - will be back later if anyone can help in any small way

All Tax, Criminal, Land & Wills Results
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Patrick Gleeson
Name: Patrick Gleeson
Date of Trial: 9 Mar 1861
Trial Year: 1861
Location of Trial: Devon, England
Sentence: 1 year
Crime: Breaking & entering warehouse and stealing
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Nice to see you again

Dee xx

Thanks! (Hadn't gone yet!) I did think i had stuff about something to do with 'Glesson's stables@ but searched through threads for his name-and nothing came up - so may have been a brother or uncle (lol) Thanks very much . Sorted .

Not sure?????

Name: P G
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: 1821
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Wortley
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds and Ripon
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: labourer in dye house

Condition as to marriage: married

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Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds]
ED, institution, or vessel: Leeds Borough Gaol
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3352
Folio: 28

This could be him then. Image looks more like 41.
Its Exeter Prison



Name: P G
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: 1800
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Male
Where born: Limerick, Ireland
Civil Parish: Exeter St David
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Think you've got him, definitely says 41 one the image not 61 :-D

EXETER GUILDHALL .
Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish Advertiser (Exeter, England), Wednesday, February 27, 1861; Issue 4950.

I have found a report of the burglary - and the fact he was tried -but not the outcome! there were several people in on it - but he is quoted as saying' I expect I'll get 4 years' so he was lucky to get 1 !

Thanks you for your help

Can't find a report of the trial -but really interesting anyway :)