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Margaretfinch

Margaretfinch Report 28 May 2011 09:07

Can anyone find any of these people in the 1911 census here they are in the 1901 census
James Poole Name: James Poole
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan Poole
Gender: Male
Where born: Haverhill, Sussex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 1590
Folio: 117
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
James Poole 57
Susan Poole 44
Ethel Poole 22
Elsie Poole 6
Thank you Margaret

Salve

Salve Report 28 May 2011 09:13

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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POOLE, James Head Married
45 years M 65 1846 General Labourer Pegelspam Essex VIEW
POOLE, Susan Wife Married
45 years F 69 1842 High Easter Essex VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
265 Reference:
RG14PN265 RG78PN8 RD3 SD2 ED39 SN178

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
South Hammersmith Enumeration District:
39 Parish:
Hammersmith

Address:
3 Springvale Terrace County:
London


The record says they have 2 children, both living.
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Margaretfinch

Margaretfinch Report 28 May 2011 09:25

Thank you so much I just wonder why I can't find them I must be doing something wrong
Margaret

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2011 09:26

FMP has his birth date slightly different
1901
POOLE, James Head Married M 51 1850 General Labourer
Haverhill
Sussex VIEW
POOLE, Susan Wife Married F 44 1857
Clarring
Essex VIEW
POOLE, Ethel Daughter Single F 22 1879
Lauston
Cambridgeshire VIEW
POOLE, Elsie Niece!!!!! Single F 6 1895
Dalston

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Age for James is correct when you look at the actual image . Its been taken as 57 by Ancestry transcribers

Dea

Dea Report 28 May 2011 09:30

I'm not sure that these are the correct people.

The 1911 family is at the same address 10 years earlier and is not the one you posted.

Give me a minute to take a further look.

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 May 2011 09:37

1891 ?...

POOLE, James Head Married M 50 1841 General Labourer
Haverhill
Suffolk
POOLE, Susan Wife Married F 37 1854
Clavering
Essex
POOLE, Eva M Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar
Stratford
Essex
POOLE, Ernest Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Stratford
Essex

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
1351 Folio:
96 Page:
36

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Leyton Enumeration District:
49 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Margarets

Civil Parish:
Wanstead Municipal Borough:
Wanstead Address:
51, Huddlestone Road, Wanstead, Leyton County:
Essex

Chris :)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2011 09:49

Name: Eva Maud Poole
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1881
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 73

Name: Eva Maud Poole
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1904
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 92

Henry William Cummings or John Wombwell

so married before 1911

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2011 09:50

so if there was two children Eva and Ernest who is Ethel on the 1901 census?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 May 2011 09:56

Ethel is said to be born Sawston, Cambs, but not seeing her 1881 yet!...

Chris :)

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 28 May 2011 09:57

?????

1911 census transcription details for: 8 Mitchell Street
RG14PN1265 RG78PN43 RD14 SD3 ED17 SN181

Reg. District: Holborn Sub District: St Luke
Parish: St Luke Enum. District: 17
Address: 8 Mitchell Street
County: London

POOLE, James Head M 71 1840 No Occupation Haverhill Suffolk
POOLE, Elizabeth Wife F 73 1838 Tie Maker Upper Thames St City

They've only been married for 6 years.

Dea

Dea Report 28 May 2011 09:58

Ethel is their niece !!!

Eva married John Wombwell and moved to Cambridgeshire - parents are not with her!

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 May 2011 10:11

Off of original request!, but have just noticed a burial for a John Poole, aged 73,18th March, 1913 Sawston. Cambs. (from Parish CD I have)

Chris :)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 May 2011 10:16

Name: James Poole
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1905
Registration district: Holborn
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number:1217
spouse Elizabeth Green

Dea

Dea Report 28 May 2011 10:18

OOhhh Chris - Sawston Cambs is where their daughter Eva moved to with her husband John Wombwell!!!

Looks promising.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 28 May 2011 10:31

Re: The James who married Elizabeth Green in 1905 - his father was George Poole, a weaver!

We must be able to connect them here.

Has anyone found James's marriage to Susan yet please?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 28 May 2011 10:52

Eva would be John's second wife then, I had this for them on 1911:




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WOMBWELL, John Head Married M 42 1869 Smallholder Essex Langley
WOMBWELL, Eva Maud Wife Married 6 years F 29 1882 Essex Plaistow
WOMBWELL, Ada Daughter F 12 1899 School Cambs Sawston

WOMBWELL, Elsie Daughter F 10 1901 School Cambs Sawston
WOMBWELL, John Ernest Son M 5 1906 Cambs Sawston
WOMBWELL, Arthur Jas Son M 3 1908 Cambs Sawston
WOMBWELL, Eva May Daughter F 1 1910 Cambs Sawston

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RG14PN9143 RG78PN485 RD182 SD1 ED6 SN6

Registration District Linton Sub District:
Duxford Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Sawston

Address:
Babraham Road Sawston Cambridgeshire County:
Cambridgeshire

Dea x

I think I am getting a bit lost here - going to get dressed and make a cup of tea.

I will return..............

Dea x

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 May 2011 07:55

(bringing this back, in case Margaret pops in, plus it seems confusing, lol)

I can't see a Marriage for James and Susan, but is this James with Jane on 1871?, there is a Marriage for a James Poole to Jane Basham on FreeBMD 1865 Suffolk (it has been corrected, as surname was Batham!)

1871

POOL, James Head M 31 1840 Suffolk
POOL, Jane Wife F 25 1846 Suffolk
BASHAM, Olga Cousin F 12 1859 Suffolk

RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1711 Folio:
153 Page:
24

Registration District:
Risbridge Sub District:
Haverhill Enumeration District:
6E Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Haverhill Municipal Borough:
Address:
Burton End, Haverhill County:
Suffolk


1881

POOLE, James Head Married M 41 1840 Genl Labourer
Haverhill
Suffolk
POOLE, Jane Wife Married F 35 1846
Haverhill
Suffolk

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1712 Folio:
80 Page:
48

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
West Ham Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
West Ham Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Florence St, West Ham County:
Essex


Right, tricky bit!...
Can you see take a look at 1881 above, and note the Barker family living next to James...the wife is Susan from Clavering, born 1857!! (ish) and a daughter born in Sawston, Cambs.

Now, on the 1891 Census as posted below, that Charles Barker is with a wife Annie, and James Poole seems to be with Susan!...


1891

BARKER, Charles Head Married M 35 1856 Manager Cocoa Rooms
Langley
Essex
BARKER, Annie Wife Married F 27 1864
Upton Bishop
Herefordshire
BARKER, Melinda Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Sawston
Cambridgeshire
BARKER, Ethel Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Sawston
Cambridgeshire
BARKER, James H Son M 9 1882 Scholar
West Ham
Essex
BARKER, Gertrude Daughter F 3 1888
West Ham
Essex
BARKER, Charles L Son M 2 1889
Romford
Essex
BARKER, Violet A Daughter F 0 (5M) 1891
Balham
Surrey

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
444 Folio:
133 Page:
26

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Clapham Enumeration District:
40 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Ascension

Civil Parish:
Clapham Municipal Borough:
Clapham Address:
75, Balham Grove, Clapham County:
London


Here is James in 1901, West Ham, (as already posted)

POOLE, James Head Married M 51 1850 General Labourer
Haverhill
Sussex
POOLE, Susan Wife Married F 44 1857
Clarring (Clavering)
Essex
POOLE, Ethel Daughter Single F 22 1879
Lauston (Sawston)
Cambridgeshire
POOLE, Elsie Niece Single F 6 1895
Dalston
London


Then the marriage for James Poole (widower) in 1905 Holborn, giving his father as George, a weaver. This ties in with in 1841 as posted below...


1841

POOL, George M 25 1816 Suffolk (Weaver)
POOL, Maria F 25 1816
POOL, William M 9 1832 Suffolk
POOL, George M 8 1833 Suffolk
POOL, Hannah F 6 1835 Suffolk
POOL, James M 2 1839

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1032 Book/Folio:
25 Page:
3

Registration District:
Risbridge Sub District:
Haverhill Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Haverhill Municipal Borough:
Address:
Down's Lane, Haverhill County:
Suffolk

(noting, there is another James Poole, b 1841 in Haverhill, parents Robert and Emily)

Does seem a tangle, I was wondering if Margaret had any birth Certs. for Eva M Poole, or Ernest from the 1891 census, to see what mothers maiden name was?...


Eva Maud Wombwell was buried in Sawston, Cambs. 1959, 11th April, aged 77, a widow.


Sorry to be rambling, but didn't get on till late last night, and won't be back till teatime tonight!, (got relative hospital and Mum visiting!) and it's been bugging me, lol :-))...

Chris :)









Margaretfinch

Margaretfinch Report 29 May 2011 08:01

I do thank you all very much I am not sure what I am looking at now
James Poole was born in Haverhill Suffolk in 1839. I do not believe he was married to Susan but they had children together.
thanking you so much
Chris you are right about James Poole and his parents being
George and Maria Poole as on the 1841 census
So he remarried in 1905 thank you
Margaret

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 May 2011 08:05

Hello Margaret, that sounds like we have the right James then, son of George...

Have you got the Birth Certs. of either Eva or Ernest Poole?...

Chris :)

Margaretfinch

Margaretfinch Report 29 May 2011 09:04

how did you find the name of James father on the marriage in 1905 because his fathers name was George
Thank you
M,argaret