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Samuel Morris birth help please?

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Joe

Joe Report 20 Jun 2011 16:26

He's my great great great grandad, I know he married Ellen Brooks in 1848 in Chorlton, Manchester and that he was born in Pendleton, Salford , (Lancs) around 1823.

I know the other sites turn up more info about parents names etc, Parish Records etc, is it possible someone could please do a look up for me for his marriage and his birth?

I promise when I get my Ancestry. subscription I will put my hours into helping folks here as I have been helped -

Thanks...

safc

safc Report 20 Jun 2011 16:28

Marriage: 30 Jul 1848 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
Samuel Morris - of full age Silk Thorowster Bachelor of Pendleton
Ellen Brooks - (X), minor Spinster of Pendleton
Groom's Father: John Morris, Cordwainer
Bride's Father: Joseph Brooks, Weaver
Witness: William Harrison; Mary Harrison, (X)
Married by Banns by: W. Marsden
Register: Marriages 1848 - 1849, Page 54, Entry 107
Source: Microfilm held at Manchester Central Library

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 20 Jun 2011 16:38

1841 England Census about Samuel Morris
Name: Samuel Morris
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Salford
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 586
Book: 1
Folio: 42
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
John Morris 45
Betsy Morris 45
Samuel Morris 15 cordwainer
Rachel Morris 10
Hannah Morris 15
Hugh Morris 2
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MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Jun 2011 16:47

Such a wonderful site:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

And it's free!!!!

Maureen

Joe

Joe Report 20 Jun 2011 16:49

That is fantastic, thank you!

Would I need to visit the churches in Pendleton in person to get hold
of any birth records for him??

Joe

Joe Report 20 Jun 2011 16:51

Thank you Maureen, off to have a look!

Joe

Joe Report 20 Jun 2011 16:58

Maureen,

Such a pity, the relevant links on that site (for Salford) do not open for me.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Jun 2011 17:17

On the left side of the page -go down to Search. Click that. You should get a page wich includes:
You may click here to begin searching the whole county.

Click that.

I can't guarantee you'll find anything more,but it should keep you out of trouble for a while!

Maureen :-)

Joe

Joe Report 20 Jun 2011 17:47


Got Samuel's parent's marriage!!!

Thank you!!!!

Marriage: 29 Aug 1814 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Morris - (X), Cordwainer Batchelor of this Parish and Town of Manchester
Elizabeth Bradshaw - (X), Spinster of this Parish and Town of Manchester
Witness: I Chantler; Benj'n Ball
Married by Banns by: C.D. Wray
Register: Marriages 1814, Page 343, Entry 1027
Source: LDS Film 1545577 :-) :-) :-D

Joe

Joe Report 20 Jun 2011 17:47


Got Samuel's parent's marriage!!!

Thank you!!!!

Marriage: 29 Aug 1814 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Morris - (X), Cordwainer Batchelor of this Parish and Town of Manchester
Elizabeth Bradshaw - (X), Spinster of this Parish and Town of Manchester
Witness: I Chantler; Benj'n Ball
Married by Banns by: C.D. Wray
Register: Marriages 1814, Page 343, Entry 1027
Source: LDS Film 1545577 :-) :-) :-D

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 21 Jun 2011 13:49

copied from other thread for info

2nd wife Elizabeth (Betsey) had also previously been married - maiden name Ainsworth

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MORRIS * John AINSWORTH Elizabeth Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/86/488
MORRIS * John GORTON Elizabeth Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester CATH/86/488

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 21 Jun 2011 13:50

I do not have access to census info so please could you put the ones up you have found.

Did you identify them in 1861

Joe

Joe Report 21 Jun 2011 13:59

Ann!
got a lesson now, give me an hour please! Thanks!

Joe

Joe Report 21 Jun 2011 14:04

while I'm waiting for my student, can I post files up here, like scanned copies of the censuses?

Joe

Joe Report 21 Jun 2011 16:05

Please check your inbox Ann.

I found:
Samuel Morris in the 1861 census - Head - 39 - Labourer - born Pendleton , Salford.
Ellen Morris - Wife - 30 - born Salford
William Henry - Son - 7 - scholar - Salford
John - son- 5 - Salford
Walter - Son - 2 - Salford

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 21 Jun 2011 17:01

having difficulty getting into my inbox but finally managed by going in a longwinded way.

Sorry I have to go out for a few hours but will be back on line later this evening.

Joe

Joe Report 21 Jun 2011 18:21

OK Ann, see you later.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 21 Jun 2011 22:45

Samuel seems to be fairly easy to find in 1851 (at least I assume it is him as I can only see the 1 person not the houshold)

however on his marriage record the witnesses were William harrison and Mary harrison

did Samuel have a sister Mary?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1839
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MORRIS Mary HARRISON William Manchester Collegiate Church (later Manchester Cathedral) Manchester CATH/10/198

Joe

Joe Report 22 Jun 2011 08:51

Ann, in 1851 Samuel is living at 22 Union Street Salford with his parents in law, Joseph Brooks and Ellen Brooks , and Sam's wife Ellen and their son Joseph aged 2.

If this isn't the right Samuel, then everything I've done since the last month has been scuppered. :-\

Joe

Joe Report 22 Jun 2011 08:51

btw, I am off to check your Sister Mary discovery! Brilliant work, thank you!