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My husband great grandfather was Harold Henry Hadring born 17 December 1906 Chirstchurch Bournemouth.

Father is George John Harding Master Greengrocer and Mothr Alice Lavina Harding nee White living at 96 Stewart Road Bournemouth.

Harold married Jane Elizabeth Plant 04 April 1931 Coventry. His Father George is deceased.

I have today been to the local FHC and looked at the electoral registers to try and find Harolds family.

In 1933 Harold is living with his wife Jane and a Nicolas Lacey. In 1932 It is Nicholas Lacey and Alice Lavina Lacey and again in 1931.

At the time of Harolds marriage he put the address as 50 St Margarets Road this is the address I have checked and as you will see in both 1931 and 1933 Harold is not listed so where is he?

Harold is aged 24 on his marriage certifciate and is bachelor, mechanic motor car adjustments:

Also note Alice Lavina Lacey is livng with Nicholas Lacey as her husband could she have remarried. I cannot find a marriage for a Harding to a Lacey.

50 St Margarets Road Coventry was the family home.

Can anyone hlep with this?

Many thanks
Candis

" as you will see in both 1931 and 193 " ...... ( ???)


" note the age gap "


Afraid we can't note anything as you haven't posted the details.

you probably already have this but here's the 1911 census

Address: 13 Stewart Road East Bournemouth

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HARDING, George Head Married M 56 1855 Green Grocery Barrow Dorchester
HARDING, Alice Wife F 30 1881 London
HARDING, Louisa Daughter Single F 24 1887 Kitchen Maid On Boarding House Bournemouth
HARDING, Frederick Son M 8 1903 Bournemouth
HARDING, Queenie Daughter M 7 1904 Bournemouth
HARDING, Harold Son M 4 1907 Bournemouth
HARDING, Violet Daughter F 2 1909 Bournemouth
SMITH, Margaret Visitor Married F 25 1886 Liverpool

1911 if it's any use:-

HARDING, George Head Married M 56 1855 Green Grocery Barrow Dorchester VIEW
HARDING, Alice Wife F 30 1881 London VIEW
HARDING, Louisa Daughter Single F 24 1887 Kitchen Maid On Boarding House Bournemouth VIEW
HARDING, Frederick Son M 8 1903 Bournemouth VIEW
HARDING, Queenie Daughter M 7 1904 Bournemouth VIEW
HARDING, Harold Son M 4 1907 Bournemouth VIEW
HARDING, Violet Daughter F 2 1909 Bournemouth VIEW
SMITH, Margaret Visitor Married F 25 1886 Liverpool VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5862 Reference:
RG14PN5862 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED31 SN61

Registration District:
Christchurch Sub District:
Bournemouth Enumeration District:
31 Parish:
Bournemouth

Address:
13 Stewart Road East Bournemouth County:
Hampshire

Married for 10 years
6 children - 5 living and 1 dead

Looks like she married under her maiden name ???


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Marriages Jun 1915 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cotterill Edith Oldham Coventry 6d 1630
>>>>>>>>>>Lacey Nicholas - White - Coventry 6d 1630
Oldham Arthur Cotterill Coventry 6d 1630
>>>>>>>>>White Alice L - Lacey - Coventry 6d 1630

Did she actually marry George ?

Can't see a marriage

Hi tempest & Catherine

I do have the 1911 thanks for posting that appears to be the right family.

I have been unable to find a marriage between Alice and George.

hi is this the family in 1911

1911 census
Household information
Address 13 Stewart Road East Bournemouth
Parish Bournemouth
Town East Bournemouth
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 6
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN5862 RG78PN267 RD95 SD2 ED31 SN61
Administrative County Hampshire
Registration District Christchurch
Registration Sub District Bournemouth
Enumeration District 31

Householder 1
Name George Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 56
Estimated Year of Birth 1855
Occupation Green Grocery Barrow
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Dorchester

Householder 2
Name Alice Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Total Children Born Alive 6
Children Still Living 5
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London

Householder 3
Name Louisa Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1887
Occupation Kitchen Maid On Boarding House
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Bournemouth

Householder 4
Name Frederick Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1903
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Bournemouth

Householder 5
Name Queenie Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender M
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Bournemouth

Householder 6
Name Harold Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 4
Estimated Year of Birth 1907
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Bournemouth

Householder 7
Name Violet Harding
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1909
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Bournemouth

Householder 8
Name Margaret Smith
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 25
Estimated Year of Birth 1886
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Liverpool

Maybe George Harding wasn't actually her husband which is why she married Nicholas Lacey in 1915 under she maiden name

That is possible but there were 2 older children and one younger than Harold. All according to the 1911 cenus.

I'm wondering if this is George John Harding in 1891 with daughter Louisa from the 1911 census, and a whole different family???

Name: George John Harding
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Louisa Harding
Gender: Male
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Holdenhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Fishmonger

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 21a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 904
Folio: 145
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
George John Harding 37
Emily Louisa Harding 34 born: Sherborne, Dorset
George Thomas Harding 14
Samuel William Harding 12
James Henry Harding 9
William Fred Harding 8
xxxx Emily Louisa Harding 6 born: Bournemouth, Hampshire xxxx
William Olden 36


Marriage to go with this couple:-

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Brown George Christchurch 2b 990
Burdock Martha Christchurch 2b 990
xxxx Harding George John Christchurch 2b 990
xxxx ROGERS Emma Louisa Christchurch 2b 990
Rogers Emma Louise Christchurch 2b 990

I'll check 1901 and 1911 just in case!

That would fit.

Could he have been a naught boy, was he already married when he took up with a younger femnale maybe she was the domestic servant or sommat??

Wife's death ??


Deaths Mar 1908 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Harding Emma Louisa -35 - Salisbury 5a 125


EDIT : NO... wrong age.

Here are the four boys in 1901 all noted as Lodgers living together:-

Name: George Harding
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: N

Civil parish: Bournemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Bournemouth Holy Trinity Church
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 281
Piece: 1041
Folio: 57
Page Number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
William Taylor 36
Kate Taylor 30

George Harding 23 - Fishmonger
Samuel Harding 19 - (can't read it properly but looks like ) Mariner
James Harding 19 (should be 17)
William Harding 16 - Greengrocer

James Perry 18
Charlotte Ward 30

Could this be Emilys death

Emily Louisa Harding
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1905
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Wells
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 356 (click to see oth

Hi Catherine

That all seem to fit. Looks like I may need to order two marriage certs the one for George John Harding and Emily Louisa Rogers. and the one for Nicholas Lacey and Alice White.

The husband wanted me to go up the Harding line I hope this solves it

Thanks

Having trouble finding the rest of the family in 1901???

Possible that the death is her so should maybe look in the Somerset area in 1901 census?

This looks to be the Emily Louisa in the death record:-

1901
Name: Emily Louisa Harding
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: N

Civil parish: Wells St Cuthbert Out
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Lunatic

Condition as to marriage: single

Registration district: Wells
Sub-registration district: Wells
ED, institution, or vessel: Somerset and Bath Pauper Lunatic Asylum
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2315
Folio: 177
Page Number: 29

........there is also a birth record that matches so looks as though you can eliminate this death!

So my best bet is to start with the two marriages listed above

1911 gives Alice as being born 1881 in London.

I couldn't find a birth for Alice Lavina White, but, there is this one, which could very well be her:-

(freebmd)
Births Mar 1882 (>99%)
Wright Alice Lavina St. Saviour 1d 194

(ancestry)
Name: Alice Lavina Wright
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 134

Name: Alice Lavine Wright
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1882
Baptism Date: 16 Jun 1882
Father's name: Edward Wright
Occupation: ? Builder
Mother's name: Christian Beachiam Wright
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Southwark
Address: 35 Charles Street

also the same day:-
Herbert Henry Wright
and
Beatrice Florence Wright

...........marriage cert. will confirm as this will give you her father's name and occupation!