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OK. Now I really do think that 1891 family is THOMAS.

1881 England Census about James Thomas
Name: James Thomas
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Spouse's Name: Kate E. Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Bambury St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Compositor
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 639
Folio: 127
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Prouse 64
Eliza Prouse 65
Rosina Prouse 24
Frederick Prouse 21
Elen Maunder 13
Joseph Flockhant 21
James Thomas 24
Kate E. Thomas 23
Kate E. Thomas
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 639; Folio: 127; Page: 40

Maureen

Maureen, I think you may be on to something with the name as Thomas on the 1891. If you look at the Stuart family a little further up the page, look at the way the enumerator has written the name Thomas, particularly for the son age 3.

EDIT: - missed your post above!

LOL!! So I guess we can put them aside then?

Maureen

There was a paper in London in 1890's called the Echo

Sorry for long absence - have now obtained Homeric crew lists from Canada and can confirm he was on its maiden voyage in 1922 and several others as address given ties in with address given at time of marriage later that year and also another in Southampton for some sailings where he must have been lodging.

The Kate Martin in Battersea connection now looks very interesting as his place of birth of one sailing says Battersea - hopeful.