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If anybody has access to Canadian Passenger Lists..i would be very grateful if you could look up the following...........William Gilchrist born 1861 left England for Montreal in the few years after 1900..probably took his son Roland with him (born 1889).William married Mary Jane Blashill in 1899 (his second wife)..and I would like to know if she travelled with him.....

I have some evidence that she did not....and something dramatic must have happened in the year or two after 1899 if he left her behind.....any information would be grovellingly gratefully received.

Derek (Gilchrist)

1901 is this the right family ?

Name: William Gilchrist
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Gilchrist
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 4487
Folio: 79
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
William Gilchrist 40
Mary J Gilchrist 33
Roland Gilchrist 11

William is a timber merchant clerk

Hi again gkitter..yes that's the right family..but what happened after???? lol,,

Derek

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: William Gilchrist
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Date of Arrival: 12 Aug 1904
Vessel: Lake Champlain
Search Ship Database: View the 'Lake Champlain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-483

Ronald seems to be with his dad but i can not see Mary Jane

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Mary Jane Blashill
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1899
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 524 (click to see others on page)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: William Gilchrist
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1899
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 4&f5=9d">524 (click to see others on page)


so here is the marriage you speak of now we need to find out why Mary may not make the trip. unless she went later or before ?.

I think on the passenger document it has a W on the married or single section of the form which i would think means widow.

so it looks like Mary has past away.

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
Name: Mary Jane Gilchrist
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1905
Death Age: 37
Registration district: Belfast
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 246
FHL Film Number: 101602


I only found this one so far but its in Ireland and its 1905 a bit late.

1911 Census of Canada 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Ronald Gilchrist
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 21
Birth Date: Nov 1889
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Immigration Year: 1904
Tribal: English
Province: Ontario
District: Simcoe East
District Number: 119
Sub-District: Coldwater
Sub-District Number: 44
Place of Habitation: Harriett Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lloyd Smith 31
Ada Alice Smith 25
Ronald Gilchrist 21



here is Ronald on the 1911 census.

I disagree with Robin, I think on the passenger list it shows M for married. Son's name is spelled Rowland. He's aged 15. They're heading to Toronto.

Roland's marriage?

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1801-1928
about Roland Gilchrist Name: Roland Gilchrist
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Father Name: Wm Gilchrist
Mother Name: Emil Brown
Spouse Name: Ellen Lye
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse Father Name: Wm Lye
Spouse Mother Name: Elizabeth Bethay
Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1912
Marriage County or District: Simcoe

There's a photo here of Ada Mable Gilchrist, daughter of Roland & Ellen.

http://records.ancestry.com/Ada_Gilchrist_Coldwater_Medonte_Township_Simcoe_Ontario_Canada_records.ashx?pid=71933211&gss=seo

i said i think. its not carved in stone i was finding it hard to see even on 200% it could well be an m for married but could also be a w for widow its a shame we can not put the doc on here.

In any case i couldnt find a good matching death for her.

I also think it's an "m" if you compare it with the "m" in Durham further down the page.

This looks to be William's death and the informant is his wife Mary Jane:

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947

Name: William Gilchrist
Death Date: 29 May 1920
Death County or District: Simcoe
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Birth Location: Hall, England

He'd arrived in Canada 1904. Was born in Hull 13 Jan 1861, father's name was John.

Death was caused by injury following accident/congestion of the brain.

At the time of death he was a guard at Ont hospital but had previously been a clerk in an office.

Derek - if you want the image just say and I'll attach it to a pm.

i just looked at the m on william written on the document and it looks nearly the same as the m in single/married section so i should think as Margee states his still married.

Robin and Margee..brilliant support!! thank you very much indeed.....I didn't think that Mary Jane went with him....because it looks like she re-married by 1911..to a guy called Slingsby.......Her parents were George and Catherine..age and origin is right...so is the father's name....But what could have happened between 1899 and 1904???????

All complicated by the fact that there is another Mary Jane Blashill born Hull with parents george and Sarah..but I think i'll go with you guys in believeing that my relation William Gilchrist left his wife behind for whatever reason.

A Divorce by Mary J of William Gilchrist between 1904 and 1911..would be fun...any takers???

Many many thanks for the Canada information.....I can confirm from Family records that William died in Ontario in 1920......I believe that Mary J went on till 1951

Derek.

Have sent the death record to Derek anyways.

Mary Jane must have followed later, although I'm not seeing an obvious record.

Derek, you've obviously not read the death record I posted (and sent to you!)

I do believe it was the other Mary Jane Blashill who married Mr Slingsby - here she is with him in 1901:

SLINGSBY, Thos Alfd Head Married M 38 1863 Journeyman Joiner Hull Yorkshire
SLINGSBY, Mary Jane Wife Married F 33 1868 Hull Yorkshire
SLINGSBY, Thos James Son Single M 8 1893 Hull Yorkshire
SLINGSBY, Geo Alfd Son Single M 4 1897 Hull Yorkshire
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Registration District: Sculcoates
Civil Parish: Sculcoates

Address: 15, Alma Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull County: Yorkshire (East riding)

As you know, "your" Mary Jane was at that time married to William Gilchrist.

I think you're in danger of jumping to conclusions and going down the wrong path! :-)