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9 Jul 2013 00:30 |
I am trying to trace ancestors of my Great Grandmother Hannah Haigh. Through tracing my Grandmother I have found her on the 1881 and 1891 census but can't find anything else. I have made requests to view members trees who have entries of someone of her name but to no avail. I have also checked the IGI site.
Hannah was born in Clifton (I'm not sure which one) in 1854 and went on to marry my Great Grandfather, William Wilkinson Benson who lived in Hull.
As I have asked for help regarding her daughter in the past so I'm not sure if this is classed as doubling up, please accept my apologies if this is the case. :-)
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KathleenBell
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9 Jul 2013 00:48 |
I think this could be Hannah's death although the age is out a bit:-
Name: BENSON, Hannah Registration district: Hull County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1900 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 43 Volume no: 9D Page no: 207
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9 Jul 2013 00:51 |
Could this be Hannah in the 1871 census living in Hull:-
1871 census transcription details for: Mason Street, Sculcoates, Hull
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 4781 Folio: 5 Page: 4 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Sculcoates, East Parish: Sculcoates Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Hull
Address: Mason Street, Sculcoates, Hull County: Yorkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BELL, Richard Head M 52 1819 Yorkshire BELL, Emma Daughter F 20 1851 Yorkshire BELL, Arthur Son M 19 1852 Yorkshire BELL, Alice Daughter F 17 1854 Yorkshire BELL, Robert W Son M 15 1856 Yorkshire BELL, Cora Daughter F 13 1858 Yorkshire RADCLIFFE, Lilian Niece F 5 1866 Lancashire HAIGH, Hannah Servant F 17 1854 Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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KathleenBell
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9 Jul 2013 00:55 |
Do you have the marriage certificate for Hannah and your great grandfather? This would give you her father's name if she knew it. If not then this is the reference for the certificate:-
Name: BENSON, William Wilkinson Registration district: Hull County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1887 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 9D Page no: 391
MarriageFinder: William Wilkinson Benson married one of the following people:
HAIGH, Hannah<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< MORTON, Mary Ann WHELDALE, Robert
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KathleenBell
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9 Jul 2013 01:04 |
Could this be Hannah's birth:-
Name: HAIGH, Hannah Registration district: York County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1854 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 9D Page no: 28
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MargaretM
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9 Jul 2013 01:05 |
A tree on Ancestry says she was born 23 Oct. 1853, Clifton, Holmfirth, Yorkshire, daughter of Benjamin & Elizabeth Haigh. But it says she married W.W.B in 1877 not 1887. Children were born 1877, 1879, 1885 and 1888.
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9 Jul 2013 01:07 |
I think you are right with all three Kath, thank you so much. xx :-)
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9 Jul 2013 01:12 |
Thanks Margee, that also looks like a definite hit! :-)
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MargaretM
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9 Jul 2013 01:16 |
Is this them in 1881? But says Hannah born York.
1881 England Census about Hannah Benson Name: Hannah Benson Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William W. Benson Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 3 Granville Ter Condition as to marriage: Married Registration District: Hull Sub-registration District: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 71 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4778 Folio: 65 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age William W. Benson 38 Hannah Benson 28 John W. Benson 4 Hannah M. Benson 2
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KathleenBell
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9 Jul 2013 01:18 |
If she was born in Holmfirth why would she say on the census that she was born in Clifton?
The York registration district on the birth above would cover Clifton.
However if the the tree on Ancestry is correct then this could be a birth at the right time in Holmfirth:-
Name: HAIGH, Hannah Registration district: Huddersfield County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1853 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 9A Page no: 237
Personally I would go with the York birth, but first of all I would buy the marriage certificate. It is definitely in the index for 1887, so if they have the date wrong in the Ancestry tree then other things may also be wrong.
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MargaretM
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9 Jul 2013 01:22 |
In 1891 census she says born Clifton:
1891 England Census about Hannah Benson Name: Hannah Benson Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William W Benson Gender: Female Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Kingston County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration District: Hull Sub-registration District: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3940 Folio: 112 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age William W Benson 47 Hannah Benson 38 John W Benson 14 Hannah M Benson 12 Sarah F Benson 6 Thomas H Benson 3
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9 Jul 2013 01:28 |
I wonder if Clifton was formally an area within Holmfirth. I have checked on the internet and Holmfirth is in Yorkshire. all of these things were often confused by the enumerators entry.
You definitely both have the right person. As you say I need to view the marriage certificate.
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9 Jul 2013 01:46 |
Thank you Kath and Margee :-)
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MaureeninNY
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9 Jul 2013 11:58 |
The marriage cert is the way to go but I would have bet on her being this person: 1861 Name: John Haigh Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Haigh Gender: Male Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hull Holy Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: Hull Sub-registration District: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 135 Piece: 3597 Folio: 13 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age John Haigh 36 Hannah Haigh 37 Francis Haigh 9 >>Hannah Haigh 6 born York Benjamin Haigh 4 Elizabeth Haigh 2 Henry Haigh 1 Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3597; Folio: 13; Page: 22; GSU roll: 543159.
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9 Jul 2013 12:35 |
I think you are right, this is definitely Hannah at the age of 6.
Thank you Maureen.
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MaureeninNY
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9 Jul 2013 12:56 |
Well,I hope it's her! :-)
It looks to me as though the people with the tree on Ancestry have gotten her mixed up with a Hannah Jane HAIGH (daughter of Ben and Elizabeth) who goes on to marry an Isaac BOWER in Cheshire.
Would you let us know when you get the marriage cert please? I always like to know "the ending"....or should that be the beginning??? :-D
Good luck,
Maureen
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9 Jul 2013 13:35 |
I will Maureen, thanks for help. XX :-)
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9 Jul 2013 13:55 |
I have just found this Maureen, it would offer the connection to Hull that I formally could not understand-
John Haigh (son of Abraham Haigh and Sarah Bywater) was born 05 Nov 1824 in Clifton, Yorkshire, and died 10 Dec 1894 in 610 Hessle Rd, Newington, Hull. He married Hannah Carr on 09 Sep 1843 in St Margaret, York, Yorkshire, daughter of Benjamin Carr and Agnes Bailey.
However the site only mentions Hannah and John having one child by the name of Sarah b. 23 Feb 1845, 152 Walmgate, Parish of St Margaret, York, Yorkshire, d. 11 Jun 1917, 9 Newmarket St, Grimsby. This does not fit.
The plot thickens! I will keep you updated :-D
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9 Jul 2013 14:17 |
John & Hannah in 1851 with first child named Sarah:
1851 England Census about John Haigh Name: John Haigh Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Haigh Gender: M (Male) Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York St Saviour County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: York Sub-registration District: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 5c Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 179 Piece: 2355 Folio: 237 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age John Haigh 26 Hannah Haigh 27 Sarah Haigh 6 Mary Haigh 4 Margaret Haigh 1
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9 Jul 2013 14:25 |
I agree with the marriage...but they had a LOT of children!
1891 census transcription details for: 610, Hessle Road, Newington, West Ella North Ferriby, Kingston Upon Hull RG number: RG12 Piece: 3917 Folio: 114 Page: 31 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Newington Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: Newington City/Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull Address: 610, Hessle Road, Newington, West Ella North Ferriby, Kingston Upon Hull County: Yorkshire (East Riding)
HAIGH, John Head Married M 66 1825 Night??Foreman Clifton, Yorkshire HAIGH, Hannah Wife Married F 67 1824 Osbaldwick, Yorkshire ,,,,,,,,,,,, 1881 census transcription details for: Hessle Road, Newington
RG number: RG11 Piece: 4751 Folio: 7 Page: 7 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Newington Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Hessle Road, Newington County: Yorkshire (East riding)
HAIGH, John Head Married M 56 1825 Night Foreman Locomotive Engine Shed (D & M) York, Yorkshire HAIGH, Hannah Wife Married F 57 1824 York, Yorkshire HAIGH, Fanny Daughter Single F 29 1852 York, Yorkshire HAIGH, Agnes Daughter Single F 18 1863 Newington, Yorkshire HAIGH, Alice Daughter Single F 14 1867 Newington, Yorkshire HAIGH, John Son Single M 11 1870 Newington, Yorkshire ................ 1871 census transcription details for: Railway Cottages, Willerby RG number: RG10 Piece: 4777 Folio: 48 Page: 8 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Willerby Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Railway Cottages, Willerby County: Yorkshire
HAIGH, John Head M 46 1825 Yorkshire HAIGH, Hannah Wife F 47 1824 Yorkshire HAIGH, Benjamin Son M 15 1856 Yorkshire HAIGH, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1859 Yorkshire HAIGH, Agnes Daughter F 8 1863 Yorkshire HAIGH, Alice Daughter F 4 1867 Yorkshire ....................
Maureen
~~~~~~~To Margee. Is it as hot up there as it is down here???
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