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Lost Roumbles and Townsends

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GypsyJoe

GypsyJoe Report 25 Jul 2013 15:30

Afternoon all

I have a few people on a tree I'm researching that have either married and died or just married in lived in a few places but I can't find births, bapts, census or for one or two deaths.

Here are the details that I do have, anything anyone can find would be grand.


Charles Henry Roumble
Birth unknown
Marriage to Hannah Clapton 15 April 1895 (his father according to the marriage entry was Charles Roumble - deceased) in Bethnal Green.
Death according to probate was 9 Jan 1941.

I can find no census or other records on this gentleman.

Rose Florence Roumble
Birth unknown probably about 1900
Married Maurice Stanley Townsend in 1930 - no details, appears to be her second marriage.
Death unknown

No other records

Maurice Stanley Townsend
Birth unknown probably about 1905
Married Rose Florence Roumble in 1930 - no details
Death based on best match Westminster Sept Q 1961
Electoral residences
1926, 1927, 1929 listed with a Jane and James Townsend no idea if related.
1937, 1938,1949 listed with Rose Florence Townsend.

Hope someone can give me some leads.

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2013 15:41

For info

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1930 (>99%)
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Roumble Wood Rose F Townsend Stepney 1c 521
Townsend Maurice S Wood Stepney 1c 521
Wood Rose F R Townsend Stepney 1c 521


Andy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Jul 2013 15:41

could this be a connection?

Name: Geo Roumble
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 56
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Camberwell
Sub-District: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical Parish: Emanuel
Parish: Camberwell
County: London, Middlesex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Jul 2013 15:42

these all appear to be connected to the above

Harriett Roumble
Wife
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: London
census: 1891 England

Alfred Roumble
Son
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: London
census: 1891 England

Elizabeth Roumble
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: London
census: 1891 England

Louisa Roumble
Daughter
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: London
census: 1891 England

Walter Roumble
Son
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: London
census: 1891 England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2013 15:48

For factual info.............purchase the 1930 marriage cert

Don't guess........................you could end up wasting a lot of your time and energy

safc

safc Report 25 Jul 2013 15:52

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
Roumblewood Rose Florence Mile End 1c 472

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jul 2013 15:52

There's this ?????

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
Roumblewood Rose Florence Mile End 1c 472

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2013 15:54

Death

Name: TOWNSEND, Maurice S
Registration district: Westminster
County: London
Year of registration: 1961
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:56
Volume no: 5C
Page no: 371

If he was born in England/Wales, you should be able to find the registration

Are you aware of freebmd...........?

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2013 15:58

Maybe


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Rose Florence R Townsend




Name:
Rose Florence R Townsend

Birth Date:
20 Sep 1904
Date of Registration:Sep 1970
Age at Death:66
Registration District:St Marylebone
Inferred County:London
Volume:5d
Page:1722

Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2013 15:59

Isn't there any age info for Charles on the 1895 marriage record?

When was Hannah born?

Who was her father?

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2013 16:00

1911

1911 England Census
about Charles Wood
Name:Charles Wood
Age in 1911:39
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1872
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Paddington
Civil Parish:Mile End Old Town
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street Address:139 Bow Common Lane
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:16
Estimated Marriage Year:1895
Occupation:TANK LABOURER
Registration District:Mile End Old Town
Registration District Number:21
Sub-registration District:Mile End Old Town North Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel:30
Piece:1646
Household Members:
Name
Age
Charles Wood 39
Hannah Wood 44
Charles Wood 12
Hannah Wood 15
Rose Wood 7
William Wood 2





Andy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2013 16:04

Fuller version of 1911

1911 census


Person: WOOD, Charles Address: 139 Bow Common Lane

WOOD, Charles Head Marr16 years M 39 1872 Tank Labourer London Paddington VIEW
WOOD, Hannah Wife Marr F 44 1867 Whitechapel EL VIEW
WOOD, Charles Son Single M 12 1899 School Mile End EL VIEW
WOOD, Hannah Daughter Single F 15 1896 Apprentice To Tailoring Mile End EL VIEW
WOOD, Rose Daughter Single F 7 1904 Mile End EL VIEW
WOOD, William Son M 2 1909 Mile End EL

EDIT:

I see that Andy has now edited his post....................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Jul 2013 16:06

?????

You can cross-refer with father's details on her marriage cert

1891 census
eport transcription change
Search criteria used

Person: CLAPTON, Hannah Address: 349, Mile End Road, Mile End Old Town

CLAPTON, James Head Married M 48 1843 Picture Frame Maker
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Fanny Wife Married F 41 1850 Assistant In Shop
London VIEW
CLAPTON, James Son Single M 17 1874 Frame Maker
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Georges Son Single M 15 1876 Assistant In Shop
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Walter Son Single M 10 1881
London VIEW
CLAPTON, John Son Single M 4 1887
London VIEW
CLAPTON, William Son Single M 2 1889
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Hannah Daughter Single F 22 1869
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 19 1872 Cap Maker
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Harriet Daughter Single F 12 1879
London VIEW
CLAPTON, Lucy Daughter Single F 6 1885
London

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2013 16:13


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Rose Florence Wood
Name:Rose Florence Wood
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:3 Oct 1904
Father's Name:Charles Wood (Rivetter, agrees with marriage cert)
Mother's Name:Hannah Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union:Limehouse St Luke
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Register Type:Parish Registers

Born 20 Sept 1904 (agrees with death record posted above)

Andy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jul 2013 16:18


1901 England Census about Charles Wood
Name: Charles Wood
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Wood
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, Paddington, London, England

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Stepney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration District: Mile End, Old Town, Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 132
Piece: 334
Folio: 133
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Wood 30 iron tank maker - Paddington
Hannah Wood 29 Whitechapel
Hannah Wood 4 Mile End
Charles Wood 2 Mile End

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jul 2013 16:32

Here's Charles Wood, boiler maker, born Paddington c1869, with a previous wife and family:


1891 England Census about Charles Wood
Name: Charles Wood
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann J Wood
Gender: Male
Where born: Paddington, London, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Tower Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration District: Poplar
Sub-registration District: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 336
Folio: 26
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Wood 22
Ann J Wood 25
Charles E Wood 2
Edward H Wood 5/12


And probably Ann's death:

Deaths Sep 1892 (>99%)
Wood Annie Jane 25 Bethnal Green 1c 118

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jul 2013 16:41

Possibly death of Charles E Wood, b.c1889 ???

Deaths Jun 1894 (>99%)
Wood Charles Edward 5 Hackney 1b 334

Andrew

Andrew Report 25 Jul 2013 16:56

Possible baptism for Charles Edward Wood


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Charley Edward Wood




Name:
Charley Edward Wood
Record Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:26 May 1889
Father's Name:Charles Edward Wood (Boliermaker)
Mother's Name:Ann Jane Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union:Poplar All Saints
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Register Type:Parish Registers



Andy

GypsyJoe

GypsyJoe Report 25 Jul 2013 16:56

Well have you all been busy little bee's certainly helps to have a different perspective.

Andrew - I already have the same marriage thanks, the death could be it if she's continued using her maiden name. If the name was actually Roumblewood then the Wood family you have found may in fact them so thanks for that.

Ann - I came across that family but as no James or Maurice appear with them I discounted them.

Reggie - Unfortunately the family I'm doing this for don't want me to buy certificates. I did find the same death record as you however, the Claptons you found are the right family but I'm fine on them, he was infact married twice had a load of kids and even spent some time in Goal - a real east ender he was. Like I mentioned above with Andrew if the surname was in fact Roumblewood then we could be onto something with the Wood surname.

Argllgran and Safc - thanks maybe there's something with a name change.

Thanks again all lloks like the surname direction I need to head in for the Roumbles in fact Roumblewood.

I wonder where Maurice will turn up?

Thanks again all. :-D

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Jul 2013 17:02

Rose Florence's birth is the only Roumblewood record of any sort on the whole of FreeBMD - so doesn't look as if it's a real name!

Maybe the birth cert would show something different - likely it's two words (Roumble Wood - as on her marriage cert) mistranscribed.
Pity you can't buy the cert!