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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name JANE
Last Name MADDRELL
Relationship HEAD
Condition WIDOW
Gender Female
Age 36
Year Of Birth 1815
Occupation WASHERWOMAN
Birth Place -
Birth Town LONAN
Birth County ISLE OF MAN
House Number 1
House Name -
Street CAMBRIAN PLACE
Town DOUGLAS
Parish CONCHAN
City -
County Isle of Man
Hamlet -
Parliamentary Borough -
Municipal Ward -
Registration District -
Archive Reference HO107
Piece Number 2525
Folio 353
Page 21

Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Town
JANE MADDRELL HEAD 36 1815 LONAN Image Transcription
MARGARET MADDRELL DAUGHTER 13 1838 DOUGLAS Image Transcription

The father could, of course, have been invented.

Normally, one would have expected his daughter to record his death in the same way as her mother's.................

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Last Name MADDRELL
Age 25
Year Of Birth 1816
Gender Female
Occupation -
House Number -
House Name -
Street FACTORY LANE
Parish CONCHAN
City DOUGLAS
Town -
Registration District -
County Isle of Man
Country ISLE OF MAN
Birth County ISLE OF MAN
Archive Reference HO107
Schedule 996
Piece Number 1465
Folio 27
Page 50

Household Members
First Name Last Name Age Year Of Birth
ISAAC MUNCASTER 28 1813 Image Transcription
ELIZ MUNCASTER 29 1812 Image Transcription
ROBERT MUNCASTER 7 1834 Image Transcription
ANN MUNCASTER 6 1835 Image Transcription
JOHN MUNCASTER 2 1839 Image Transcription
JANE MADDRELL 25 1816 Image Transcription
JANE MADDRELL 5 1836 Image Transcription

A little early?

Name: Jane Maddrell
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 09 Aug 1832
Event Place: Rushen, Isle of Man
Gender: Female
Marital Status:
Father's Name: William Maddrell
Mother's Name: Jane Gawne
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Digital Folder Number: 004499930
Image Number: 00058

Don't think it is Jane Gawn but her marriage to William Maddrell seems to be in 1842.

Reggie - Thank you. You could be right about the invention or Will could perhaps have been elsewhere.

The IOM Marriage index does show a Will Maddrell as the father of the younger Jane:-

Hugh Iddon
Marriage Date: 11 Jul 1866
Marriage Place: Braddan, Isle of Man
Spouse: Jane Maddrell
Biography: Married: Jane Maddrell. Groom's marital status: Bachelor. Groom's father: John Iddon. Bride's marital status: Spinster. Bride's father: Will Maddrell. (MS09073/3/9part1) - http://www.imuseum.im/FamilyHistory/View.mth?EntryID=3083445&issourcerecord=true

How about this Roderick....


Web: Isle of Man, Marriage Index, 1606-1984
about Jane Henry Name:Jane Henry
Marriage Date:3 May 1834
Marriage Place:Lonan, Isle of Man
Spouse:William Maddrell

Biography:
Married: William Maddrell. Groom's marital status: Bachelor. Groom's father: not stated. Bride's marital status: Spinster. Bride's father: not stated. (MS09878/3)

The 2 children born to Hugh Iddon and Jane Manddrell were both born in Dalton in Furness - Isabella Jane in 1868 and Amy Margaret in 1872 - see this site, it records mmm:

http://www.cumbriabmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

I think if you look at the site they had another child John William in 1874. Dalton is strange, sometimes it comes under Ulverston registration district and sometimes Barrow.

Added, sorry this third child should read William John.

Could this be the Jane. If the marriage to Jane Henry is correct then this child could have been born just before she married and her name changed later.

Name: Jane Henry
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 14 Jan 1834
Christening Place: LONAN,ISLE OF MAN,ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Jane Henry
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03808-1
System Origin: Isle_Of_Man-ODM
GS Film number: 106728
Reference ID:

Astra - Thank you. Given the variation of calculated age between Jane Iddon's 1901 census and 1927 death record I suppose 1932 can't be ruled out. I f have found this marriage.

Name: Jane Gawne
Spouse: William Maddrell
Marriage: 20 Oct 1827 - Malew

But that would make Jane Gawne just 13 or so at the time. Not impossible but seems unlikely?

I think we have jumped ahead of you.

:-)

PH- Yes you have - I am truly impressed with the speed you are all contributing and grateful!!!! Doing my best to keep up!

Astra, PH - Yes Jane Henry seems more than a little plausible. I am grateful to you all - learning a lot about how one needs to think when researching! Reggie - I take your point about no mention of Jane's father in the Bible - hadn't thought of that.

William Maddrell's death?

Birth: 1813
Name: William Maddrell
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 25 Jul 1839
Event Place: Lonan, Isle of Man
Digital Folder Number: 004497426
Image Number: 00109

Flip - Thank you for the link to Cumbria BMD - I was unaware of a third child in 1874. The family should be findable in 1871 Census - which I haven't managed to do so far.

I can't find them in dalton, but if the first child was buried in I-o-M then they may have been back there at the time of the 1871 census, returning before Amy was born in 1872.

Think this may be Hugh, bearing in mind his occupation in 1901 - I can only find him with mother Margaret in 1851:

Baptism: 30 Oct 1842 All Saints, Hesketh with Becconsall, Lancashire, England
Hugh Iddon - [Child] of John Iddon & Margaret
Abode: Hesketh
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: E. Ellwood
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1856, Page 70, Entry 553
Source: LDS Film 1471150

In case you don't have this....


Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
about Hugh Iddon Name:Hugh Iddon
Gender:Male
Age:58
Birth Year:abt 1843
Relation to Head:Head
Residence Date:31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street:Corporation Street
District:St. Anne's
County:Antrim

Household Members:

Hugh Iddon 58
Jane London 64



Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
about Hugh Iddon Name:Hugh Iddon
Estimated birth year:abt 1843
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Death Age:63
Registration district:Belfast
Volume:1
Page:149
FHL Film Number:0101603



Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
about Jane Iddon Name:Jane Iddon
Gender:Female
Age:75
Birth Year:abt 1836
Relation to Head:Grandmother
Residence Date:2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street:Clifton Park Avenue
District:Clifton
County:Antrim

Household Members:

Robert Gordon Smyth 40
Amy Margaret Smyth 39
William Hugh Smyth 15
Malcohn Thompson Smyth 12
George Madrell Smyth 10
Lesley Gordon Smyth 8
Douglas Iddon Smyth 5
Jane Iddon 75



Web: Northern Ireland, Will Calendar Index, 1839-1943
about Jane Iddon Name:Jane Iddon
Death Date:28 Jun 1927
Death Place:Northern Ireland
Record Date:26 Aug 1927
Record Location:Belfast, Northern Ireland
Iddon Jane 28 Jun 1927 26 Aug 1927 Iddon Jane of 88 Cliftonpark Avenue Belfast widow died 28 June 1927 Probate B...



Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Robert Gordon Smyth Name:Robert Gordon Smyth
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1894
Registration district:Belfast
Volume:1
Page Number:448
FHL Film Number:101257
Records on Page:

Amy Margaret Iddon



Web: Northern Ireland, Will Calendar Index, 1839-1943
about Amy Margaret Smyth Name:Amy Margaret Smyth
Death Date:24 Oct 1938
Death Place:Northern Ireland
Record Date:16 Feb 1940
Record Location:Belfast, Northern Ireland
Smyth Amy Margaret 24 Oct 1938 16 Feb 1940 Smyth Amy Margaret of 63 Landsdowne Road Belfast married woman died 24 October...

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Web: Ireland, Census, 1901
about Aney M Smyth Name:Aney M Smyth
Gender:Female
Age:29
Birth Year:abt 1872
Relation to Head:Wife
Residence Date:31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street:St. James Street
District:Clifton
County:Antrim

Household Members:

Robert G Smyth 30
Aney M Smyth 29
George M Smyth
Malcolm T Smyth 1
William H Smyth 5
Ellen Nelson 32

His probate record:


Hugh Iddon
Probate Date:17 Oct 1906
Death Date:4 Sep 1906
Death Place:Belfast, Antrim, Down, Ireland
Registry:London, England

Of 55 Crumlin Terrace Belfast, probate to his widow Jane. £100.

Age on death reg was 63.

Flip - Thank you - that seems to be right. But try as I have been - no sign on IOM in 1871 or elsewhere!

Quick PS re Robert McLeod -
yes, Roderick, "seaman Steward" does indicate a MN ship (but not necessarily a passenger ship).
What I meant (when going by the 1861 census record for the wrong Robert!) was that he could have first gone to sea as a fisherman, then later joined the MN.

But as I can't find him in 1861, there's no clue as to what he was doing then.

EDIT: I see you've been researching this for a while!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=149882.0

I think they must already have left for Ireland by the time of the 1871 census.