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im researching Nichel Rippon b1902 also later known as nichol and nicholl and possibly nicholas (1911) born durham and died liverpool 1957. Married Winiifred Dunstan nee Large 1942. I would appreciate any information anyone may have

This looks like the reference for his birth certificate:-

First name(s) NICHEL
Last name RIPPON
Birth year 1902
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District CHESTER LE STREET
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Page 586

Kath. x

Is this him with his widowed father in 1911 census? :-

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Rippon Head Widower Male 43 1868 Miner Stonman Belowground Pelton Fell Durham
Nicholas Rippon Son - Male 9 1902 - Old Pelton Durham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Rippon Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Old Pelton Durham
Mary Elizabeth Lewis Servant Married Female 23 1888 House Keeper Crook Durham
William Lewis Servant Son - Male 6 1905 School Grange Villa Durham
Florence Lewis Elligitimate Daughter Of Serva - Female 0 1911 - Old Pelton Durham

Address:- 19 Monros Buildings, Old Pelton.

Kath. x

hi cath thanks for your reply. I think that is him, im confused because he was definately Nichol when he died 1957. and my father was Nichol named after him. The date of birth ties up even though is Nichel. Do you think its possible that he is the nicholas in the 1911 census? i cant find any other variants of the name in 1911.

Could this be his parents in the 1901 census:-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Rippon Head Married Male 33 1868 Coal Miner Stoneman Pelton, Durham
Sybella Rippon Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Lintz Colliery, Durham
Sybella Rippon Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Heworth, Durham

Kath. x

Names are often changed slightly and I can't see anyone else in the census that could be him.

Your best bet would be to buy his birth certificate and see if it gives his father's name as William (as per the census record).

Kath. x

If the above records are the correct family this looks like Nichel's mother's death:-

First name(s) SYBBELLA
Last name RIPPON
Gender Unknown
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1878
Age 29
Death quarter 4
Death year 1907
District CHESTER LE STREET
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Page 353

Kath. x

I was wondering where the daughter called Sybella born 1898 (who is in the 1901 census) was in the 1911 census as she is not with father William. However this looks like her with grandparents:-

William Rutherford Head Married Male 57 1854 Coal Mine Labourer Above Ground Matfan Northumberland
Jane Ann Rutherford Wife Married Female 56 1855 - Wylam Northumberland
John Thomas Rutherford Son Single Male 13 1898 Engine Driver Stationary Underground Ouston Durham
Sybbella Rippon Granddaughter - Female 13 1898 - Heworth Durham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Address:- Pelton House Cottage, Pelton.

William Rutherford and his wife have been married 35 years. 10 children born to the marriage. 7 still living in 1911 and 3 have died.

Kath. x

interesting as I have seen in the past a copy of marriage cert of Nichol and im fairly certain his mothers name was isabella (which could be sybella?) i have sent for his marriage cert and my fathers birth cert i will also send for Nichols birth cert now.

This is William Rutherford in the 1891 census with his wife and children (including Sybella):-

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William Rutherford Head Married Male 37 1854 Waggonway Man Northumberland
Jane A Rutherford Wife Married Female 37 1854 - Northumberland
Mary E Rutherford Daughter Single Female 18 1873 General Day Servant Co Durham
Sybella Rutherford Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Scholar Co Durham<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Susanna Rutherford Daughter Single Female 12 1879 Scholar Co Durham
William Rutherford Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Co Durham
Lizzie Rutherford Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Co Durham
Dora Rutherford Daughter - Female 4 1887 - Co Durham
Edith Rutherford Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Co Durham
Annie Rutherford Daughter - Female 16 1875 - Co Durham

Kath. x

If you send for Nichel's birth certificate from 1902 make sure you spell the name NICHEL or they may not issue it.

Kath. x

oh thats good advice thank you. I will look for their marriage that might help also. thanks very much :-D

I have looked for a marriage between William Rippon and Sybella/Isabella Rutherford and I can't find one up to now.

Much better to get the 1902 birth certificate for Nichel/Nichol/Nicholas. That way you will know for certain who his parents are.

Kath. x

ok i will do that. I cant find a marriage for them either although interestingly i have found his marriage to the Mary E lewis (from the 1911 census) they married in 1919 it seems

nik x

I now have the birth certificate for nickel and his parents are indeed William rippon and Isabella formerly rutherford. As I can find no other variants if nichol Nicholas or nickel I'm fairly convinced this is my grandfather. But I can't find a marriage for William and Isabella Rutherford, anyone got any ideas of anything else I can try?

Looking at the 1881 census, I wonder if William was a little older? Perhaps he had been married before and not free to marry Isabelle?

1881

Name: William Rippon
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Pelton Fell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Hetton le Hole
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: 10 John Street
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Houghton Le Spring
Sub-registration district: Hetton le Hole
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4975
Folio: 124
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Dunwell 48
Hannah Dunwell 48
E.A. Anderson 15
William Anderson 20
William Rippon 17
Thomas Newman 20


1871

Name: William Rippon
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Grandson
Mother's name: Margaret Rippon
Gender: Male
Where born: Pelton Fell, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Barmston
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Harraton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 4993
Folio: 49
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Richardson 58
Henry Stavely 23
William Hunter 33
Margaret Rippon 36, Daughter, Widow
George Rippon 10
William Rippon 7

Name: William Richardson Rippon
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Chester le Street
Parishes for this Registration District:
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 406

Interesting certainly the pelton connection is there. Would this have been a possibility that he wasnt able to marry her do you think? I wonder how possible is it ro be certain i have the right william rippon?

He is single in 1891

Name: William Rippin
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Pellon, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Ouston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Name Age
Fenwick Maddison 50
Isabella Maddison 41
Alice Maddison 18
Cathrine J Maddison 12
Isabella Maddison 8
Sarah H Maddison 5
William Rippin 24>>>>Coal Miner>>>>>Single
Joseph Greenwell 8

Name: Margaret Rippon
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Nicholas Rippon
Gender: Female
Where born: No Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Pelton
Ecclesiastical parish: Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester le Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 3761
Folio: 9
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicholas Rippon 29
Margaret Rippon 27
Mary Ann Rippon 4
Sarah Rippon 3
George Rippon 11/12
Dorothy Richardson 19



Name: Nicholas Rippon
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: 1834
Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1856
Marriage Place: Gateshead,Durham,England
Spouse: Margaret Richardson
FHL Film Number: 252794, 252795, 252796, 252797, 252798, 252799, 252800, 90786