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Roger Crisp b. 1834 Peterborough Northants... son of Wm.
married Melicent/Millicent Hollingsworth 1856 Pancras London
She dies in 1873 and probate says husband
is Roger Crisp .. She was born 1814 Elton Northants
He was an engineer at time of marriage.
On 1871 census he is not found but wife could be a widow
hard to read on the census..
Cannot find his death in England.
There are some Roger Crisp's found in directories on Ancestry.
Just trying to find his death.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Can you give details of the 1871 census for his wife as I can't find her on Findmypast.

Do you have the 1861 census with the couple together?

Kath. x

I do not see them in 1861...

1871 England,

Rings End Guyhirn, Wisbech St Peter, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, England

Vincent Bellars Head - Male 78 1793 - Northamptonshire, England
Mary Bellars Wife - Female 79 1792 - Northamptonshire, England
Millicent Crisp Daughter - Female 52 1819 - Northamptonshire, England (image says Elton, Northamptonshire)
Rachel Atkin Servant - Female 17 1854 - Cambridgeshire, England

Millicent seems to have got through a few husbands, William Grounds, George Hollingworth and Mr Crisp.

she sure has...

04 October 1873 - The Ipswich Journal - Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Death
Crisp - 30th, at Wisbech, Milicent, wife of Roger Crisp, commercial traveller, aged 60.

Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber 670
BurialDate 03 Oct 1873
Forename Millicent
Surname CRISP
Age 60
Abode South Brink
Notes Ceremony performed by L Sanders, Curate

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber 842
BurialDate 24 Apr 1874
Forename Vincent
Surname BELLARS
Age 82
Abode Wisbeach St Peters
Notes Ceremony performed by Thos P Holmes, Minister, Chapel of Ease

so he died after her... will note that...
not an engineer now but a commercial traveller.

You said Vincent and Mary Bellars were MIllicent's parents, but her father's name is given as John Young on the 1856 marriage to Roger Crisp, and she was 'Young' when she married Wlliam Grounds on 1st July 1834, so was it just Mary who was her parent ?

Not that this helps find when Roger died...

will make note of that... Thx Kucinta...

If Roger is the son of William Crisp and Katherine/Catherine Buckle, the only census I can spot him in so far is the 1841. :-(

County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 522
MarriageDate 01 Jul 1834
GroomForename William
GroomSurname GROUNDS
GroomCondition Bachelor
BrideForename Milicent
BrideSurname YOUNG
BrideCondition Spinster
WitnessOneForename Vincent
WitnessOneSurname BELLAIRS
WitnessTwoForename Mary Bibbons
WitnessTwoSurname GROUNDS
Notes By licence. Witness 3: William STEVENS.

Chris :)

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Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 78
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jun 1835
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Lynn Road
FatherOccupation Druggist

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 79
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 Jun 1835
Forename Edward
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Lynn Road
FatherOccupation Druggist

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 457
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 May 1837
Forename John Young
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Market Place
FatherOccupation Druggist

Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 642
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 01 Jun 1838
Forename David
Sex M
FatherForename William
MotherForename Melicent
FatherSurname GROUNDS
Abode Market Place
FatherOccupation Druggist

England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription

First name(s) Roger
Last name Crisp
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1834
Baptism date 15 Oct 1834
Place Peterborough
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Crisp
Mother's first name(s) Catharine
Mother's last name -
Batch number I00729-7

Merchant Seamen Transcription


First name(s) ROGER
Last name Crisp
Age -
Birth year 1834
Birth day 15
Birth month 09
Birth place PETERBOROUGH
Birth county NORTHAMPTONSHIRE
Place PETERBOROUGH
Discharge number -
Identity certificate number -374 676
Card type -

type Boy served in Royal Navy for two months

ticket issued 2 April 1850

looks like he had a brother called Buckle
1841 England Census about Royer Crisp
Name: Royer Crisp
[Roger Crisp]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: St John The Baptist
Hundred: Nassaburgh
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 817
Book: 1
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Crisp 40 occ merchant
Catherine Crisp 40
Elizabeth Crisp 15
Buckle Crisp 13
Katherine Crisp 12
Mary Crisp 10
Monica Crisp 8
Royer Crisp 6
Fanny Crisp 4
Sarah Spriggs 15

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 817; Book: 1; Civil Parish: St John The Baptist; County: Northamptonshire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 8; Page: 10; Line: 22; GSU roll: 438883.

doesnt help find his death but as it came up

His unmarried sister Mary

1891 England Census about Mary Brickle Crisp
Name: Mary Brickle Crisp
[Mary Buckle Crisp]
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Peterborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:living on own means

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1230
Folio: 109
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Brickle Crisp 58

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1230; Folio: 109; Page: 4; GSU Roll: 6096340.

so he was probaly at sea in 1851

1851 England Census about Cath?? Crisp
Name: Cath?? Crisp
[Catherine Crisp]
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Peterborough St John the Baptist
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:2 Neville Place

Occupation:annuitant

Condition as to marriage:widow

Disability:

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Stilton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Piece: 1747
Folio: 444
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Cath?? Crisp 52
Mary Crisp 20
Fanny Crisp 14
Thos Seed 29

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1747; Folio: 444; Page: 39; GSU roll: 87702-87703.

just got daughter Mary Buckle with her
1861 England Census about Catherine Crisp
Name: Catherine Crisp
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Kildare, Ireland
Civil Parish: Peterborough St John the Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:annuitant

Condition as to marriage:widow

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Registration district: Peterborough
Sub-registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 966
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Crisp 60
Mary B Crisp 25

Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 966; Folio: 6; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542729.


So Roger seems to evade all census after 1841

as he joined the Merchant Navy most likely at sea


Maybe he died at sea???

1861: Image states CRISP

Roger Criss
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Milicent Criss
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: St Martin
Town: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 2362
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6

Name Age
Roger Criss 28 Agricultural Merchant
Milicent Criss 36

Address: 255 1/2 High Street.

looks good Gritty :-)