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Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:13
	Hello Can anybody find this family after 1861? This is them in 1851 Living Morants Court Hill, Chevening John Box Head Male 30 1821 Ag Lab Brasted, Kent Eliza Box Wife Female 26 1825 Wife Of Lab Otford, Kent William Box Son Male 2 1849 Son Ag Lab Otford, Kent Ruben Box Son Male 1w 1851 Son Ag Lab Chevening, Kent Husband John dies in 1859 This is them in 1861 Living 22 Stanhope St.Pauls Greenwich. Eliza Chattenton Widow Female 35 1826 Laundress Deptford, Kent William Box Son - Male 12 1849 - Deptford, Kent Rhuben Box Son - Male 10 1851 - Deptford, Kent John Box Son - Male 7 1854 - Deptford, Kent George Box Son - Male 5 1856 - Deptford, Kent Eliza Box Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Bexleyheath Ann Box Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Bexleyheath I am not sure why Eliza is listed as Chattenton. Also I think the birth place should be Otford and not Deptford for the first 5 listed. Thanks John
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:34
	?? JOHN Last name BOX Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1846 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JOHN BOX married one of these people Margaret Tutheridge, Henrietta Staples, Eliza Spicket District Sevenoaks District number - County Kent 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Morants Court Hill, Chevening, Sevenoaks, Kent, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Box Head Married Male 30 1821 Ag Lab Kent, England Transcription Eliza Box Wife Married Female 26 1825 Wife Of Lab Otford, Kent, England Transcription William Box Son - Male 2 1849 Son Ag Lab Otford, Kent, England Transcription Ruben Box Son - Male 0 1851 Son Ag Lab Chevening, Kent, England
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:40
	Possibly Rueben? 1871 Reuben Box Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Chevening, Kent, England Civil Parish: Ormside County/Island: Westmorland Country: England Registration district: East Ward Sub-registration district: Appleby Jesse Amos Head 21 1850 Male Birmingham Eliza Amos Wife 20 1851 Female Paddington Middlesex England Reuben Box Lodger 20 1851 Male Chevening Kent England *** John Roose Lodger 39 1832 Male Ashover Derbyshire England Thomas Roose Lodger 20 1851 Male Winchester John Roose Lodger 22 1849 Male Rodmerpak Derbyshire England William Bennett Lodger 33 1838 Male Cobham Kent England James Piper Lodger 19 1852 Male Chelsea London England
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:44
	Ruben Box Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Ormside, Westmorland, England Enumeration District 12 Gender Male Age 20 Marital Status U Occupation Railway Labourer Relationship to Head of Household Lodger Birth Year (Estimated) 1851 Birthplace Chevening, Kent -------------------------- Entry Number 3 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5269/0330 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Jesse Amos Head M 21 Birmingham Eliza Amos Wife F 20 Paddington, Middlesex Ruben Box Lodger M 20 Chevening, Kent John Roose Lodger M 39 Ashover, Derbyshire Thomas Roose Lodger M 20 Winchester John Roose Lodger M 22 Codnor Park, Derbyshire William Bennett Lodger M 33 Cobham, Kent James Piper Lodger M 19 Chelsea, London Mary Ann Finagan Servant F 14 Ramsbottom, Lancashire Citing this Record "England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch
Member Since: November 2013 Posts: 4,445 Send Message	JoonieCloonie	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:49
	the first children's births were recorded with mother's name SPICKET and the later children as SPICKETT so that's the right marriage https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp e.g. BOX, REUBEN SPICKET GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION Volume 05 Page 461 BOX, GEORGE SPICKETT GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION Volume 02A Page 314 (although I'm not seeing William) (Otford is in Sevenoaks Union reg dist)
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:50
	1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Addington Place, Lambeth, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Walter Brown Head - Male 29 1842 - Hampshire, England Transcription Emily Brown Wife - Female 32 1839 - Hampshire, England Transcription Alfred Charles Boarder - Male 24 1847 - Surrey, England Transcription Henry W Smith Boarder - Male 27 1844 - Middlesex, England Transcription George Box Boarder - Male 18 1853 - Kent, England
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:53
	???? 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 188, Piccadilly, St James Westminster, Westminster, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alice Mary Bradshaw Wife Married Female 20 1861 Baker Cook & Confectioner Wife Pimlico, Middlesex, England Transcription Ada Elizabeth Batchelor Sister In Law Single Female 22 1859 Baker Cook & Confectioner Assistant Pimlico, Middlesex, England Transcription Caroline Louisa Goodall Servant Single Female 20 1861 General Servant Domestic Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription George Box Workman Married Male 27 1854 Bread Baker Chelsfield, Kent, England Transcription John Galling Workman Single Male 19 1862 Porter To Baker Exeter, Devon, England he ws a baker in 1871 census
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 16:57
	A tree on Ancestry suggests that this is Eliza 1859 on the 1871 census Eliza Box Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: N Civil Parish: Sundridge Town: Sundridge County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Sevenoaks Sub-registration district: Sevenoaks ED, institution, or vessel: Sevenoaks Union Workhouse They also suggest (no sources) that she died in the USA.
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:06
	?????? 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) Ann Last name Box Relationship Inmate Marital status - Gender Female Age 10 Birth year 1861 Occupation - Birth town - Birth county - Birth county as transcribed NOT KNOWN Birth place Not Known House name - Street Sevenoaks Union Workhouse Parish Sundridge Town - City - County Kent Country England Registration district Sevenoaks Archive reference RG10 Piece number 924 Folio 87 Page 5 Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:07
	The same tree owner seems to be a decendent of George, with a quite extensive list of sources. This is believed to be his marriage George Box Registration Year 1880 Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district Westminster Parishes for this Registration District Westminster Inferred County London Volume 1a Page 924 Household Members Name Age George Box <<<< Fanny Charlotte Baily Edward Bridger Fanny Mallon Shrubb <<<< Fanny Mallon Shrubs <<<< 1891 George Box Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Box [Annie Box] Gender: Male Where born: Chelsfield, Kent, England Civil Parish: Tottenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Edmonton George Box Head Male 36 1855 Chelsfield Kent England (occ Baker) Fanny Box Wife Female 30 1861 Alford Kent England Annie Box Daughter Female 9 1882 Westminster Harriett Box Daughter Female 7 1884 Barnsbury Eliza Box Daughter Female 1 1890 West Green Middlesex England John Frick Servant Male 17 1874 Canning Town
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Member Since: January 2011 Posts: 4,821 Send Message	Flip	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:08
	Can someone look at the image for this census as familysearch has her as wife, rather than widow; Name Rhuben Box County London, Kent Event Type Census Event Date 1861 Event Place St Pauls, London, Kent, England Ecclesiastical Parish St Pauls Registration District Greenwich Residence Note Stanhope Street Gender Male Age 10 Relationship to Head of Household Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1851 Birthplace Deptford, Kent Page Number 28 Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 395 / 62 Affiliate Record Type Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Eliza Chattenton Wife F 35 Deptford, Kent William Box Son M 12 Deptford, Kent Rhuben Box Son M 10 Deptford, Kent John Box Son M 7 Deptford, Kent George Box Son M 5 Deptford, Kent Eliza Box Daughter F 4 Derby Heath, Kent Ann Box Daughter F 2 Derby Heath, Kent Citing this Record "England and Wales Census, 1861," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MG-V211 : 6 April 2016), Rhuben Box in household of Eliza Chattenton, St Pauls, London, Kent, England; from "1861 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:09
	Annie Box Event Type Census Event Date 1881 Event Place Great Berkhampstead, Hertfordshire, England Registration District Berkhampstead Residence Note High Street Gender Female Age 26 Marital Status (Original) Single Occupation Barmaid (Inn Serv) Relationship to Head of Household Servant Birth Year (Estimated) 1855 Birthplace Sevenoaks, Kent, England Page Number 9 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 1446/68 Affiliate Record Type Household
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:12
	They all look likely. JoonieCloonie I could not find William in the GRO index.
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:14
	George Box's Probate George Box Death Date: 13 Mar 1900 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 9 Apr 1900 Registry: London, England Of 61 Cornwall Rd, West Green, Tottenham, Middlesex, Baker died 13 March 1900. Probate to Fanny Mallon Box, widow, £516 7s 2d.
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Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 191 Send Message	John	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:16
	Flip I have seen that image and it clearly says widow.
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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,837 Send Message	malyon	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:17
	the children on the 1861 cencus mother maiden name spriket except William and ruben born box no mothers name given so looks like mother was box unmarried
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:22
	from fmp 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 22, Stanhope Street, St Pauls, Greenwich, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Eliza Chattenton Wife Widow Female 35 1826 Laundress Deptford, Kent, England Transcription William Box Son - Male 12 1849 - Deptford, Kent, England Transcription Rhuben Box Son - Male 10 1851 - Deptford, Kent, England Transcription John Box Son - Male 7 1854 - Deptford, Kent, England Transcription George Box Son - Male 5 1856 - Deptford, Kent, England Transcription Eliza Box Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Kent, England Transcription Ann Box Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Kent, England says widow on image
Member Since: November 2013 Posts: 4,445 Send Message	JoonieCloonie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:23
	Malyon it is not SPRIKET it is as I posted, SPICKET for the older children and SPICKETT for the younger children How could the mother have been unmarried when the marriage occurred before their births? the absence of a mother's surname does not necessarily mean unmarried, these were early registrations and it may just not have been recorded.
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,405 Send Message	Maddie	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:23
	could be john Box John — 1863 1863 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Sevenoaks, Kent, England Transcription Image Box John — 1865 1865 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Sevenoaks, Kent, England
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	30 Mar 2017 17:34
	GRO free search gives the age of the Sevenoaks Deaths. They don't seem to correspond with John's year of birth BOX, JOHN 23 GRO Reference: 1863 M Quarter in SEVENOAKS Volume 02A Page 281 BOX, JOHN 85 GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in OF SEVENOAKS Volume 02A Page 275 Added - considering the youngest 2 were born in Bexleyheath (Dartford reg) John's death is more likely to be this one BOX, JOHN 39 GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 148 Burial? John Box Birth Year: abt 1821 Age: 38 Burial Date: 30 Oct 1859 Burial Place: Crayford, England Chapelry: St Paulinus Parish as it Appears: Crayford
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