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Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann

Lesley Alexandra Elisabeth Ann Report 2 Aug 2017 15:22

Looking for Elizabeth Ambrose, father Robert Ambrose who may have been married to May Ann Pape. Elizabeth, I think, was born in 1865 and married Nicholas James Davis in 1887. Need more info on her and her parents as have been unable to verify on any census. Robert was already deceased when Elizabeth married. He was listed as being a Railway Plate Layer and may have been born in 1833. Unfortunately, though I have found certain info re both Elizabeth and Robert, I have been unable to cross ref with other info such as census to be able to verify it.
Many thanks for any help anyone may be able to provide.

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 15:26

Can you give a location please. :-)

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AMBROSE, ELIZABETH ANN PAPE Order
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 328

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 15:30

Civil service evidence of age Transcription
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First name(s) Elizabeth Ann
Last name Ambrose
Birth year 1865
Birth date 19 Sep 1865
Place Penzance
County Devon
Country England
Event type Birth
Reference Z 167809 199/1
Record set British Civil Service Evidence Of Age
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 15:30

So the marriage was in Plymouth, is that where they were both from? Just to give us an idea where to look.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
Ambrose Elizabeth Ann Plymouth 5b 526
DAVIS Nicholas James Plymouth 5b 526
Doney Thomas Alfred Plymouth 5b 526
Skedgwell Maria Plymouth 5b 526

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 15:35

1891 census - her sister with them,

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
London Inn Court, Vauxhall Street, Plymouth, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Davis Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Worthymill, Tavistock Devon, England
Elizabeth M Davis Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Plymouth, Devon, England
Emma Ambrose Sister Single Female 13 1878 - Plymouth, Devon, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 15:36

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
DAVIS, ELIZABETH MAUD AMBROSE Order
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 229

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
AMBROSE, EMMA PAPE Order
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 249

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 15:37

Sister Emma


AMBROSE, EMMA PAPE Order
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 249

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 15:37

1901]
Name Elizabeth Davis
Age 34
Estimated Birth Year abt 1867
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Spouse Nicholas J Davis
Birth Place Plymouth, Devon, England
Civil parish Plymouth
Search Photos Plymouth, Devon, England
Ecclesiastical parish St Luke
County/Island Devon
Country England
Registration district Plymouth
Sub-registration district St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel 24
Piece 2102
Folio 122
Page number 26
Household schedule number 157
Household Members
Name Age
Nicholas J Davis 38
Elizabeth Davis 34
Elizabeth M Davis 11
Florence M Davis 1

1911
Name E Davis
Age in 1911 45
Estimated Birth Year abt 1866
Relation to Head Wife
Gender Female
Birth Place Tavistock, Devon
Civil parish Devonport
Search Photos Devonport, Devon, England
County/Island Devon
Country England
Street Address 65 Station Road, Keyham, Barton, Devonport
Marital Status Married
Years Married 24
Estimated Marriage Year 1887
Registration district Devonport
Registration District Number 278
Sub-registration district Stoke
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Household schedule number 552
Piece 13037
Household Members
Name Age
N J Davis 48
E Davis 45
F Davis 11
S Davis 9
F Davis 7
S Davis 5
V Davis 2

Name Elizabeth A Davis
Birth Date abt 1865
Date of Registration Jun 1921
Age at Death 56
Registration district Devonport
Inferred County Devon
Volume 5b
Page 375

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 15:38

another sister

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
AMBROSE, MARY ANN PAPE Order
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 107

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 15:49

?

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17, Ham Street, Charles the Martyr, Plymouth, Devon, England



Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 52 1799 Joiner & House Carpenter Employ 4 Men Cornwall, England
Mary Ambrose Wife Married Female 58 1793 - Plymouth, Devon, England
William Hy Ambrose Son Unmarried Male 28 1823 Joiner & House Carpenter Journeyman Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Robert Ambrose Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Joiner & House Carpenter Journeyman Plymouth, Devon, England <<<<<<<

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 15:54

??
Robert
Last name Ambrose
Birth year 1832
Birth date ? ? 1832
Baptism year 1832
Baptism date 30 Nov 1832
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Plymouth, Charles the Martyr
Father's first name(s) Robert
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 15:57



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23, Clarence Street, Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England


Robert Ambrose Head Married Male 28 1833 Joiner & House Carpenter Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Eliza Ambrose Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Devon, England Transcription
... H Ambrose Son - Male 3 1858 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England Transcription
Robert G Ambrose Son - Male 1 1860 - Plymouth, Devon, England

AMBROSE, ROBERT GEORGE DAVEY Order
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 236

Eliza here married as carpenters wife but husband not on census?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clarence Street, Charles, Plymouth, Devon, England

Eliza Ambrose ( nee Davey) Head - Female 40 1831 - Devon, England Transcription
William Ambrose Son - Male 13 1858 - Devon, England Transcription
Robert Ambrose Son - Male 11 1860 - Devon, England Transcription
Frederick Ambrose Son - Male 9 1862 - Devon, England Transcription
Louisa Ambrose Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Devon, England
Laura Ambrose Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Devon, England
Louisa Orchard Visitor - Female 64 1807 - Hampshire, England

So maybe not the right Robert unless he had a second family....

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 15:58

1841
Hill Place, North, Charles the Martyr, Plymouth, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
Robert Ambrose Male 40 1801 -
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Mary Ambrose Female 45 1796 Devon, England
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William Ambrose Male 18 1823 Devon, England
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Mary Ambrose Female 16 1825 Devon, England
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Louisa Ambrose Female 14 1827 Devon, England
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Emma Ambrose Female 11 1830 Devon, England
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Robert Ambrose Male 8 1833 Devon, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:00

Was looking at this earlier and discounted as an Eliza not May but would fit with those census above

Devon Marriages Transcription
First name(s) Robert
Last name Ambrose
Age 24
Birth year 1832
Marriage year 1856
Marriage date 16 Nov 1856
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, St Andrew
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Ambrose
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza
Spouse's last name Davey
Spouse's age 26
Spouse's father's first name(s) Richard
Spouse's father's last name Davey
County Devon

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 16:05

sister - plymouth family
Mary Ann
Last name Ambrose
Age 19
Birth year 1868
Marriage year 1887
Marriage date 26 Jun 1887
Denomination Anglican
Place Plymouth, St Saviour
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Ambrose ----- contracter deceased
Spouse's first name(s) James Hocking
Spouse's last name Kingdom
Spouse's age 20
Spouse's father's first name(s) John Hocking
Spouse's father's last name Kingdom
County Devon
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from England, Great Britain

Mary Ann
Last name Ambrose
Birth year -
Baptism year 1869
Baptism date 08 Dec 1869
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Exeter, St Mary Steps
Father's first name(s) Robert
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Mother's last name -
County Devon
Country England

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:10

Not seeing an Ambrose/Pape marriage at all - so could this be another child or a coincidence?

Results:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
AMBROSE, WILLIAM HENRY PAPE Order
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 521

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Aug 2017 16:14

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First name(s) Mary Ann
Last name Ambrose
Owner's first name(s) Mary Ann
Owner's last name Ambrose
Street Chester Place
Place Plymouth
County Devon
Year 1869
Date Apr 1869
Event Poor rate books
Archive reference 1645-24-1-1
Record set Plymouth & West Devon Rate Books 1598- 1933
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Rate Books
Collections from England, Great Britain

EDIT this is 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chester Place, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England


M A Ambrose Head - Female 73 1798 - Gloucestershire, England Transcription
Lydia Gallis Servant - Female 69 1802 - Devon, England Transcription
F P Fisher Lodger - Male 26 1845 - Devon, England Transcription
M A Ellis Servant - Female 54 1817 - Devon, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 2 Aug 2017 16:18

baptism for above
William Henry
Last name Ambrose
Gender Male
Birth year 1863
Baptism year 1863
Baptism date 25 Nov 1863
Baptism place SAINT MARY,SWANSEA,GLAMORGAN,WALES
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Ambrose
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Place Swansea
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Record set Wales Births & Baptisms 1541-1907
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:24

Address as per 1861/1871 census

Plymouth Rate Books 1598 - 1933 Transcription

First name(s) Robert
Last name Ambrose
Occupier's first name(s) Robert
Occupier's last name Ambrose
Street Clarence Street
Place Plymouth
County Devon
Year 1869
Date Apr 1869
Event Poor rate books
Archive reference 1645-24-1-1
Record set Plymouth & West Devon Rate Books 1598- 1933

but also this address for a Robert Ambrose

Plymouth Rate Books 1598 - 1933 Transcription

First name(s) Robert
Last name Ambrose
Occupier's first name(s) Robert
Occupier's last name Ambrose
Street Nelson Street
Place Plymouth
County Devon
Year 1869
Date 1869
Event Poor rate books
Archive reference 1645-24-1-2

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Aug 2017 16:36

?Death of Eliza nee Davey born c 1831 - would fit age on 1861/71 census

Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%)
AMBROSE Eliza 45 Plymouth 5b 187

? and of Robert b c1833
Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
Ambrose Robert 82 Devonport 5b 599