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Apologies. Apologies.
I have only come back to this today. Thank you all for the above information - very helpful indeed. Cx
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No need to apologise.
I wish I could find Jane in 1871 - but, so far, I've drawn a blank
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Thanks ErikaH
I can't find the daughter Betty either. I wondered if she had died but can't find a death, or did she go with her mother and take the Sudworth name? Can't find that either.....sigh...... :-(
Thank you for all your help. x
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Isn’t she the stepdaughter Betsey Holme shown in 1881 with the Sodsworth (sic) family?
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Name: Abraham Ludworth
[Abraham Sudworth]
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1845
Child: William Ludworth
Hannah Ludworth
Mobert Ludworth
Arthur Ludworth
Fred Ludworth
James Ludworth
Birth Place: Ashton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Darfield
Residence Place: Darfield, Darfield, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Darfield
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3777
Folio: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Ludworth 46
William Ludworth 18
Hannah Ludworth 15
Mobert Ludworth 14
Arthur Ludworth 9
Fred Ludworth 6
James Ludworth 3
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Erika said Peter had 4 kids but, by 1911, only one was surviving.
That would be John Thomas, who died in late Jan 1922. and was buried 26/1/1922.
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/cemetery.php?opt=cemetery
Surname Forename Age Place of Death Date Year Notes Grave Cremation Religion
Orme John Thomas 55 yrs 75 Platt Lane 26-Jan 1922 L 476 * C of E
Orme Elizabeth 15 yrs 75 Platt Lane 02-Feb 1918 M 79 * C of E
Orme Samuel 1 year 82 Platt Lane 01-Jun 1893 K 20 * C of E
Orme Alice 19 mo 82 Platt Lane 19-Sep 1895 I 774 * C of E
Orme Thomas 5 wks 8 Stanley Square 6-Feb 1904 F 431 * C of E
Orme Elizabeth 43 yrs 1 William St 29-Jan 1909 S 907 * C of E
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1887q4 ORME Mary Jane BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/165/214
1890q2 ORME James BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/175/225
1892q1 ORME Samuel BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/183/24
1894q1 ORME Alice BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/192/309
1896q4 ORME Martha Ellen BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/204/42
1898q1 ORME John BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/211/348
1900q1 ORME Alice BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/221/494
1902q3 ORME Elizabeth BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/229/253
1903[04q1] ORME Thomas BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/236/127
1906q2 ORME Rachel BOOTLE Wigan Wigan & Leigh WIG/246/259
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ORME John Thomas BOOTLE Elizabeth St. Catherine, Wigan Wigan & Leigh C29/4/237
Marriage: 19 Nov 1887 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancs.
John Thomas Orme - (X), 22 Collier Bachelor of 84 Platt Lane
Elizabeth Bootle - (X), 22 Spinster of 101 Platt Lane
Groom's Father: Peter Orme, Collier
Bride's Father: Robert Bootle, Collier
Witness: Alexander Shepherd; Sarah Ann Hall, (X)
Married by Banns by: Alfred Webb Curate
Register: Marriages 1883 - 1891, Page 119, Entry 237
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYH-48J
Event Place Wigan, Wigan, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Parish Wigan
Sub-District Wigan
Registration District Wigan
Registration Number RG14 Piece 22981 Household schedule number 267-ish
John Thomas Orme Head M 43 Ince, Lancashire W COAL MINER HEWER
Martha Ellen Orme Daughter F 14 Wigan, Lancashire
John Orme Son M 12 Wigan, Lancashire
Alice Orme Daughter F 9 Wigan, Lancashire
Elizabeth Orme Daughter F 7 Wigan, Lancashire
Eachel Orme Daughter F 4 Wigan, Lancashire
[Eachel?? - looks like transcriber hit adjacent key]
Using http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ (lookiing up "rg14 wigan", I see:
a) Piece RG14/22981 was ED 9 of the Wigan subdistrict of Wigan RD.
b) Piece RG78/1345 was the 1911 census summary book piece number for the Wigan subdistrict of Wigan RD.
1911 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYH-WKV
ED0 includes 75 Platt Lane occupied by Mrrs (Maria) Parker, but its near the beg of ED9, and JT is near end - I think this bit of Platt Ln is just N of Scholes.
For modern pics, see:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/streets/
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Thank you. Sorry for the late reply.
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