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Hi
Can anyone help with birth place of the above lady ? She was,living with and had children with William Sweeney in Burnley Lancashire in 1939 census. On her daughters,birth, Margaret June Sweeney born 1937, it says mums maiden name was Anderson. In 1939 she was calling herself Mary Quinn and down as married. But she never married William Sweeney. Please could anyone tell from the 1939 census where she was,born ? There,was,sone talk of her being from a,traveling family so not sure if that puts a spanner in the wirks .
Thanks :-) :-S

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Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)
Anderson Mary Quinn Halifax 9a 1176 xxxxxxx
CAMPBELL Mollie King Halifax 9a 1176
King Tom Campbell Halifax 9a 1176
QUINN William Anderson Halifax 9a 1176 xxxxxxx

1939 for ref
Sweeney Household (7 People) 48 Red Lion Street , Burnley C.B., Lancashire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
William Sweeney 15 Oct 1903 Male Iron Plate Moulder Widowed 37 1
William Sweeney 15 Sep 1932 Male At School Single 37 2
Martin Sweeney 16 Aug 1939 Male Under School Age Single 37 3
Margaret June Gormanly (Sweeney) 02 Jun 1937 Female Under School Age Single 37 4
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Mary Quinn 04 Jan 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 37 6

not much helpbut these were regidtered in the march quarter
ANDERSON, MARY - Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 215 Order
ANDERSON, MARY BROWN Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in MORPETH Volume 10B Page 466 Order
ANDERSON, MARY DOBIE Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 151 Order
ANDERSON, MARY HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in STOKESLEY Volume 09D Page 637 Order
ANDERSON, MARY PICKEN Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in HARTLEPOOL Volume 10A Page 129 Order
ANDERSON, MARY ROWLANDS Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 683 Order
ANDERSON, MARY SWEENEY Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in EASINGTON Volume 10A Page 506 Order
ANDERSON, MARY TAYLOR Order
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 796

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Name: Mary Quinn
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1911
Registration Date: May 1987
Registration district: Halifax
Inferred County: West Yorkshire
Volume: 4
Page: 759

the marriage cert should name her father

could this be a daughter
ANNIE
Last name QUINN
Birth year 1929
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name Anderson
District Halifax
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9A
Page 543
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Yes think you have got them. William Quinn rings a,bell. Great. Probably if get marriage certificate,then will find out where,she was born.brilliant thankyou. :-)

The 1987 death certificate should give a place of birth if it was known.




The son in is registered in 2 surnames.as is the daughter.and Anderson as maiden name.


1939 for ref
Sweeney Household (7 People) ****48 Red Lion Street ,**** Burnley C.B., Lancashire, England
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who died on Saturday. Mary Quinn, ring spinner, ****43, Red Lion***Street, Burnley, said deceased was her aunt. Two months ago she visited her, and she was then suffering from bronchitis. On Saturday a man named Foley came to Burnley and asked her to go to
13 April 1933 - Nelson Leader - Nelson, Lancashire, England

The aunt in question was,

Ann Kennedy a widow aged 43 living 19 Lister Street Colne Lancs

Yes as,William Sweeney and Mary Quinn never married. Wonder what happened to Annie Quinn . Maybe she stayed,with her dad,? :-)

Yes, saw that Anne Kennedy from Colne thing earlier but could not read all the article. I used to work in library in Colne so i can check that up in local paper . Was trying to find how Anne Kennedy was connected aunt wise. But could find no Quinn or Anderson marrying a Kennedy for maybe 1910 onwards. But will check Sweeney in case the Mary Anderson from Easington with mothers maiden name of Sweeney is the one . Just while we wait for wedding cert of William Quinn and Mary Anderson to come back ?? :-)
Can anyone spot Mary Anderson maybe living Easington or Yorkshire in 1911 census. There may be too many possibles i guess :-)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Anderson Head Married Male 21 1890 Durham Fellonsoh Tyne Coal Miner Putter Below Ground
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Mary Anderson Wife Married Female 21 1890 Durham Haswell -
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Mary Anderson Daughter - Female 0 1911 Durham New Seaham -

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England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

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First name(s) MARY
Last name SWEENEY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1910
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ MARY SWEENEY married one of these people
John Fothergill Wood, James Anderson
District Chester Le Street
District number -
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Volume as transcribed 10A
Page number 930
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
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These are all Mary Anderson 1911 ages under 1 year.although many more with other christian names.

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Marlow, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Seaham, Easington, Durham, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Gateshead, Durham, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Harlow, Epping, Essex, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Willesden, Middlesex, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Hirst, Morpeth, Northumberland, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Cowpen, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Byker, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales East Denton, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Charlwood, Reigate, Surrey, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Weston under Wetherley, Warwick, Warwickshire, England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Whitwood, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales West Tadcaster, Tadcaster, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Anderson Mary 1911 — 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Great Ayton, Stokesley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), England.

Was any aunts or uncles mentioned by Margaret June.?

Anderson.Quinn and Sweeny all have Irish surname links.


Ann Kennedy was at the time housekeper to John Foley and his son John. again Foley is also has Irish links.

Had heard they were travellers. Think Margaret June never knew,her mum really . She left and obviously went back to Halifax, maybe returning to her husband ? William Sweeney brought her up. Don't think she had any contact after that. Don't think she knew where she had gone. Would love to know the Anne Kennedy connection. I am thinking more along the lines of it being the Mary Anderson with mothers,maiden name Sweeney because that may explain why she first came to live with the widiwed William Sweeney. She could be a,cousin cone to take care of the children ? Or are the children from the census , hers as,well as,William sweeneys ? :-S

Jasnex's-street, where disturbances occurred the previous Saturday night, was mentioned the Chief Constable, when William Sweeney (33), labourer, Red Lion-street, and Francis Foley (30), 66, Daneabouse-rosd, labourer, were charged with having been
28 July 1937 - Burnley Express - Burnley, Lancashire, England.

a Foley family and Sweeney were known to each other so it seems.thats probaly how Ann Kennedy came to be John Foleys housekeeper.?


Francis Foley also lived in Lister Street.

gallery was crowded. The defendants were John McKenzie (51), 9, Lister Street; Christopher Kelly (36), 11, faster Street; Francis Foley (27), 3, Lister Street; and Michael William Heap (41), 20, King Street. McKenzie and Foley pleaded guilty. Mr. Whittle
15 June 1934 - Nelson Leader - Nelson, Lancashire, England

I've,discovered that Mary Anderson's dad was supposedly Edward Anderson on her marriage certificate to William Quinn in 1928. Edward Anderson was deceased and the marriage took place in Brighouse,at the registry office. Mary Anderson was a,hawker. Aged,18. William Quinn was 24. :-)

Just in case - Anderson, Foley, hawkers/pedlars.

I know she doesn't have a middle initial in any other record, so just a long shot.
I haven't attempted to investigated her mother's marriage re father's name:


Mary Ellen Anderson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Mary Ellen Anderson
Age in 1911: 3/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ripon
Civil Parish: Harrogate
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 6 Grobe Place [Grove]
Registration district: Knaresborough
Registration District Number: 489
Sub-registration district: Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 25927
Household Members:
Name Age
Ells Charles Ward 24 - pedlar
Charles Ratcliffe 58 - pedlar
William Anderson 26 - married, pedlar , traveller, Ripon <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Martha Anderson 21 - married, hawker , traveller, Ripon <<<<<<<<<<<<
Peter Foley 26 - single, pedlar, traveller, Grimsby <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
William Thos Battison 36 - painter
Harriet Battison 37 - needle worker
Thomas Battison 15/12
Marin [Maria ] Anderson 20 - married, pedlar, traveller, Knaresboro <<<<<
Mary Ellen Anderson 3/12 - <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
William Hudson 40 - traveller
J William Thorn 50 - French polisher
Jane Thorn 47 - French polisher
Edward Kilvington 70 - out porter

None of them is head of household in this 4-roomed house.
The document is signed by Alphonso Crolla

So thinking maybe Maria, her mother even though birth of Mary is a bit earlier. She defibately born January 1911 . As from 1939 census. And when got her marriage certificate it definitely said Edward Anderson deceased. So maybe Edward was dad but had died by 1911 even :-)

Possible - but only a long shot, as I said.

No middle name for Mary in any of the other records.
Maria (or Alphonso) doesn't say she's widowed.- but that proves nothing. She may not have been married at all, but just said so for respectability.

IF she was married, there are several marriages of Edward Andersons to women called Mary - none in Harrogate area - but as they were travellers, they could have married anywhere.

I can't see an obvious birth of Mary in Ripon.

I haven't been able to find William Anderson with any certainty in earlier censuses, to see if he had a brother Edward.
Nor even his birth in Ripon or area.

Shirley ............


just so you know, the 1939 Register gives no inkling as to where anyone was born.

It was a register of full names, ages, current address, and occupation

It was used as the basis for issuing ID cards for use in WW2, and then later as the basis for the NHS records


So the one piece of information that many of us would like for certain people was never even entered or asked.