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I have come across some notes mentioning Warmfield, St Peter concerning the Wells family referring to Charles Derby (Wells presumably) with wife Elizabeth Wilson married 24.11.1803 at this church. There were children Jane 1803, Charles 1806 and Marianne 1807. Is there any sign of them in Kirkthorpe in the 1841 census please?

Many thanks,
Frances

for ref
Yorkshire, Bishop's Transcripts Of Marriages
First name(s) Charles Darby
Last name Wells
Birth year -
Marriage year 1803
Spouse's first name(s) Elisabeth
Spouse's last name Wilson
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Marriage place Warmfield
Marriage date 24 Nov 1803
Archive Borthwick Institute for Archives
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Transcription © DC Thomson Family History

gives ages
Charles
Last name Wells
Name note -
Age 18
Marriage year 1803
Marriage date 19 Nov 1803
Marriage place -
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Wilson
Spouse's birth year 1782
Spouse's birth date 1782
Residence York, England
County Yorkshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

Thank you Maddie, that moves it on from some jottings on a scrap of paper!

childrens baptisms
Charles
Last name Wells
Birth year 1806
Birth date 19 Feb 1806
Baptism year 1806
Baptism date 23 Feb 1806
Father's first name(s) Charles Darby
Father's last name Wells
Father's residence Kirkthorpe
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name Wilson
Place Warmfield, St Peter
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Checked CHECKED
Archive reference WDP 75/4
Society reference P 77

Marianne
Last name Wells
Birth year 1807
Birth date 15 Nov 1807
Baptism year 1807
Baptism date 25 Dec 1807
Father's first name(s) Charles Darby
Father's last name Wells
Father's residence Kirkthorpe
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name Wilson
Place Warmfield, St Peter
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Checked CHECKED
Archive reference WDP 75/4
Society reference P 77
Record set Wakefield district baptisms

Jane
Last name Wells
Birth year -
Baptism year 1804
Baptism date 01 Jan 1804
Father's first name(s) Charles Darby
Father's last name Wells
Father's residence Kirkthorpe
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name Wilson
Place Warmfield, St Peter
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Checked CHECKED
Archive reference WDP 75/4
Society reference P 77
Record set Wakefield district baptisms

sorry can't see them there in 1841

Thank you Maddie, in view of the father's birth year I suppose he could still be there in 1851?

No records anywhere as far as I can see for any of these people - apart from the marriage and baptisms posted above - with the possible exception of JANE

1851
Name: Jane Wells
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Newbrough
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Hexham
Sub-registration district: Allendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 2415
Folio: 492
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Wastell 62
Gustavus H Coulson 50
Ann L Coulson 32
Ann A Coulson 4
Henry T W Coulson 2
Jane Wells 47
Edward Waggot 25
John Close 27
Isabella Hunter 29
Jane Muse 38
Anna Heron 19
Dinah Dixon 22
Ann McRatrick 20


1861
Name: Jane Wells
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 3818
Folio: 81
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Wells 57


1871
Name: Jane Wells
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 51
Piece: 5084
Folio: 33
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Wells 67
Alice Davidson 34
Eliza Apedaile 19



Private record on Ancestry says:
Jane Wells
Birth 25 Dec 1803
Death 25 Feb 1887

This looks like the baptism for Charles Darby Wells:-

England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Charles Darby
Last name Wells
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1780
Baptism date 30 Jul 1780
Residence Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Place Cambridge
County Cambridgeshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richd
Father's last name Wells
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name Wells
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

However there is also this record so not sure if one of them died and the second named after him???? :-

England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Charles Darby
Last name Wells
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1786
Baptism date 29 Jan 1786
Residence Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Place Cambridge
County Cambridgeshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richd
Father's last name Wells
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name Wells
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Can't find him in the census though.

Kath. x

Not Yorkshire, but.....................

Name Charles Darby Wells
Residence Place Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Gender Male
Christening Date 29 Jan 1786
Christening Date (Original) 29 Jan 1786
Christening Place St. Giles, Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Father's Name Richd Wells
Mother's Name Jane Wells

Presumably named after a sibling of the same name born in 1780 to these parents

Having said I couldn't find later info - how about this?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland

Charles D Wells Male 55 1786 England Transcription
Ann Wells Female 45 1796 Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
Henry Wells Male 25 1816 England Transcription
Mary Ann Wells Female 20 1821 England Transcription
Charlotte Wells Female 20 1821 England Transcription
Emma B Wells Female 15 1826 England Transcription
Charles D Wells Male 15 1826 Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
Richard Wells Male 15 1826 Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
William Wells Male 10 1831 Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
Jane Johnson Female 25 1816 Ireland Transcription
Agnes Lowrie Female 15 1826 Midlothian, Scotland

Did Elizabeth die young?


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Newbigging, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland


Charles D Wells Head Married Male 65 1786 Annuitant England Transcription
Anne Wells Wife Married Female 59 1792 - Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
Henry Wells Son Unmarried Male 36 1815 C R C S Edr In Practice England Transcription
Charlotte Wells Daughter Unmarried Female 32 1819 - England Transcription
Emma B Wells Daughter Unmarried Female 29 1822 - England Transcription
Charles D Wells Son Unmarried Male 27 1824 Writer's Clerk Lasswade, Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
William Wells Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Writer's Clerk Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
Margaret Hunter Servant Unmarried Female 24 1827 Domestic Servant Gladsmuir, Haddingtonshire (East Lothian), Scotland

Name Charles Darby Wells
Spouse's Name Ann Anderson
Event Date 09 Jul 1813
Event Place Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Spouse's Father's Name Hary Anderson

Probate of the son William

William Wells Probate 1898 Pretoria, Transvaal, South Africa 68 1830 Scotland 18 Jun 1898 Pretoria
Unspecified Transvaal, South Africa Parent

Check familysearch website

????

Charles Derby Wells
mentioned in the record of William Charles Wells
Name Charles Derby Wells
gender Male
Wife Ann Paine
Son William Charles Wells
Other information in the record of William Charles Wells
from England Births and Christenings
Name William Charles Wells
Residence Place Cambridge, England
Gender Male
Christening Date 19 Apr 1829
Christening Date (Original) 19 Apr 1829
Christening Place Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Father's Name Charles Derby Wells
Mother's Name Ann Paine

????

Charles Darby Wells
mentioned in the record of Mary Ann Wells
Name Charles Darby Wells
gender Male
Wife Ann
Daughter Mary Ann Wells
Other information in the record of Mary Ann Wells
from England Births and Christenings
Name Mary Ann Wells
Gender Female
Christening Date 05 Jan 1816
Christening Date (Original) 05 JAN 1816
Christening Place Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Father's Name Charles Darby Wells
Mother's Name Ann

Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original docucument there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Northumberland
Place (with link) Morpeth
Church name (with link) St Mary the Virgin
Register type (with link) Transcript
Baptism date 5 Jan 1816
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename Charles Darby
Mother forename Ann
Father surname WELLS
Person abode Morpeth
Father occupation Esqr.
Transcribed by Stephen Andrews
Credit Joan Rose
File line number 298

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Charles D Wells
British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices
Name Charles D Wells
Titles and Terms Sen
Event Type Obituary
Event Date 13 Jul 1858
Event Place United Kingdom
Gender Male
Age 73
Citing this Record

"British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLSQ-QYRT : 18 March 2018), Charles D Wells, United Kingdom; records extracted FamilySearch and images digitized by FindMyPast; citing United Kingdom, 13 Jul 1858, The British Newspaper Archive, Ireland; FHL microfilm .

Thank you all for your finds, I shall have to peruse them for some while to see if I can tie them down to just one individual.

Frances

This looks as if it is the burial of the Charles Darby Wells who was born in 1780:-

Cambridgeshire Burials Transcription

First name(s) Charles
Last name Wells
Birth year -
Death year 1781
Age -
Burial year 1781
Burial date 15 Sep 1781
Parish Cambridge, St Giles
County Cambridgeshire
Notes son of Richd & Jane
Record set Cambridgeshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

Kath. x

The obituary posted by safc ................

from FMP............

At Grove Street, Musselburgh, on the 9th inst., Charles D. Wells, sen., in his seventy-third year.
13 July 1858 - Dundee, Perth, and Cupar Advertiser - Dundee


That is all it says on the image.

Also published in the Caledonian Mercury - Edinburgh, Midlothian, 13 July 1858 .



73rd year = birth year 1785/1786

Thank you Kathleen and Sylvia. It seems that Charles D had a whole second family in Scotland, taking us to his death but my interest is in his first family in Kirkthorpe and his parents Richard and Jane, in Cambridge. Is there any more info on them visible please?

Frances