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WARNING TO ALL SERIOUS GOMM RESEARCHERS

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Philip

Philip Report 16 Feb 2005 18:54

Hi There, I know that Wendy Becket is a member of Genes & has her tree here (the GOMM name is spelt GUMM -even when she is told she is wrong - she even changed my grandmothers name from Hartland to Harthane - gods knows why - probably to fit in with her own tree). For anyone researching the name GOMM I strongly advise you to disregard her tree as some of the information on it is suspect to say the least. A long time ago I sent her a large chunk of my GOMM tree for private study - but she promptly put it all on the web & even quoted me as her source (which I strongly deny). I have requested that the line I sent in good faith be removed from her tree - to no avail so put this warning to other Gomm researchers in case they are traped by her. All the very best to the Gomm history group Phil

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 16 Feb 2005 19:22

Do you know Ian Gomm, record pruducer and former guitarist with the band Brinsley Schwarz?

Sue

Sue Report 16 Feb 2005 19:31

Gosh, how annoying, especially after all your hard work. I hadn't even occurred to me that it was possible to change someone else's relatives' details or was it done on on her tree? Best wishes to you in your future searches. Sue H

Philip

Philip Report 17 Feb 2005 15:58

Hi Sue, She just changed the names I sent her so they wuold fit in with her own tree - she changed GOMM to GUMM even though my Goom's were backed up by certificates & she even changed my grandmothers name from HARTLAND to Harthane (goodness knows where she got that from). All the very best Phil

Philip

Philip Report 17 Feb 2005 16:02

Hi Tracy, Thanks for your sympathy & it does make you stop & think (shall I stop passing on information) but then again we have to ride thes experiences off & put them down to inexperienced researchers who are trying to make a name for themselves at our expence. Keep up the good work. All the very best Phil

Philip

Philip Report 17 Feb 2005 16:04

Hi Peter, No mate I'm sorry but I never knew of Ian Gomm as my lot seemed to be ag labs & railway workers. Keep on diging. All the very best Phil

Unknown

Unknown Report 17 Feb 2005 19:59

I DELETED MY TREE FROM THE SITE BECAUSE I FOUND PEOPLE ADDED ON WHO I,D NEVER EVEN HEARD OF.WHEN I WROTE TO THE SITE ASKING ABOUT IT I NEVER EVEN GOT A REPLY

Helen

Helen Report 17 Feb 2005 23:00

No one can change your tree on this site, only you can access it. What some people have done is ask to look at other peoples trees, then copied the information onto their own. Personally it doesn't bother me and anyone who wants will be given permission to view mine. I'm only interested in my own tree and don't care what others do with theirs and where their info comes from. If they want to copy mine, that's up to them. I find most of the fun and satisfaction is discovering the information yourself. Then again, if I am given any new details I will add them to my tree after checking the sources where I can. I don't think you can copyright history can you? Surely it belongs to everyone. And if we can save each other a few quid by exchanging information surely that can't be a bad thing.

Unknown

Unknown Report 17 Feb 2005 23:03

I've stopped allowing people access to my tree. I know the whole point of this hobby is to share information but twice recently I've opened my tree to other people, they've copied large chunks of info on anyone with the same name and I've not had so much as a word of thanks. It may sound pedantic but there's over 3yrs of hard work and expense gone into the information I have. I'll willingly exchange info with anyone if we can establish a true connection and the exchange is fair but I'm not allowing people to just copy my time and effort and pass it off as their own. Ok...rant over! Lou

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2005 23:09

Hi sorry to hear this has happened ... it must be so galling to have it not just copied but butchered to fit! Small chunks of my tree have been copied as well but I'm not overly bothered - especially as I've not put all the information I have on here. I've also been v. careful not to post on here anything that I've not found myself and anything other people have shared with me is only on my offline family tree. It hasn't occurred to me to copy other people's info on to GR ... and it almost seems pointless if the info is already there! S:>

Janet

Janet Report 17 Feb 2005 23:35

Hi What is the point of 'fitting' people into you tree if they don't belong? The only thing I can think of is to have numbers. It must be infuriating and very misleading for future researchers. I have some small branches of my tree that I got from someone else and included after checking. I feel it cuts down on research time and lets you get on with finding more ancestors. I always pass anything I find on to people who have helped me, as their research helped me get there. I acknowledge sources on my tree at home, but when I upload the sources don't upload. Janet

Philip

Philip Report 18 Feb 2005 17:33

Hi Helen, I know that noone can change a tree on this site without the owners password but the person I issued this warning about was sent a line of research by me to study privately & was not for publication (which is the first thing that was done) - but just the same the line I sent was added to her internet tree & the names changed to fit in with her own research (all be it somewhat flawed) - I was also added to the tree as a source - I also know that the person concerned is a member of this site as I found myself on her tree here but complained about it & was removed from her genes tree ONLY. I hope you see why I am angry. All the very best Phil

Philip

Philip Report 18 Feb 2005 17:35

Hi Janet, The anoying part is that the line I sent to the person I warned against does belong in her tree but not with the mis spelling she gave them all - but this line was uknown to her until I sent it for private study only. All the very best Phil

Philip

Philip Report 18 Feb 2005 17:36

Hi Denise, Thanks for that comment All the very best Phil

Philip

Philip Report 18 Feb 2005 18:54

Hi Lou, I know the object of our hobby is to share info (which I have no objection to doing) but I draw the line at someone taking a large piece of info sent to them for their private study & then see them publish that info on a web site they happen to have - (granted this info does belong in their tree but was only brought to light by me - this line cost me a lot of money in certificates & research documents not to mention my own time (several years) - this would not have been so bad if the person concerned had not altered the spelling of the surnmaes to fit her own tree. All the very best Phil

Philip

Philip Report 18 Feb 2005 18:56

Hi Susan, You are only to right & it makes you wonder why the hell we bother trying to help some people - a thing that I shall think twice about now when it concerns my own tree. All the very best Phil

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 18 Feb 2005 20:46

Philip, First of all I agree entirely with what is being said in the thread. Unfortunately, there is no 'copyright' on our tree information. I normally won't give anything away until I have some sort of confirmation that the person on the otherside is genuine and can give me some infomation back to prove this. I would not worry too much - if this person wants to be a tw...t then it is her loss, not ours. Secondly, my reference to Ian Gomm. Ian was a friend of ours in the '70's. I was (sorry) being a little mischevious in asking if you knew who he was. This is his website, if you would like to have a gander http://www.iangomm*com/ (Methinks the picture is a b...i...t old!) I gather that the Gomms were rather unique in that they were originally only to be found in Buckinghamshire. This means that most are inter-related but makes it a devil of a job to work out who is related to who. Best regards, Peter

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 18 Feb 2005 21:24

i think its quite sad that people may feel they should no longer help other researchers on this site just because a few may not treat the information provided to them in the correct manner. for those people just starting out they may not have any information that can be traded so may spend a large amount of time looking for something that could be solved quite quickly if it wern't for those giving others reason to distrust. in addition if they are truely interested in finding out information about their families they are going to go out and check anything they recieve before listing it on this site as accurate otherwise what would be the point. those that don't check the information are best ignored.

Kazzie

Kazzie Report 18 Feb 2005 21:34

Are you related to the Gomms at all from Chickerell in Dorset?I went to school with a Stuart and Martin Gomm think there was a few others in that area to Karin

Philip

Philip Report 23 Feb 2005 16:45

Hi Karin, No the GOMM's I am descended from are from Charlbury Oxfordshire & I was told by bot my granddad & his sister that we are relaited to the G plan GOMME's ( I wish I knew where they got their E from) but so far have not tried to prove it. All the very best Phil