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I have listed James with his wife Emily and children to in order to assist any one who is willing to try and help.

My problem is he gives year of birth as 6 years earlier in the 1891 census than he does in the 1901 & 1911 so I'm not certain what year he was born.

1891 census

James Garratt
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry

Civil parish: Great and Little Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Allerton Bywater
Town: Bowers Allerton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Tadcaster
Sub-registration district: Aberford
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Garratt 46
Emily Garratt 26
Emily Garratt 4
Abraham Garratt 2
Joseph Perkinson 28
John Mottern 44

I have just received his marriage certificate, he married Emily Ingle on 7/7/1884 in Walsall. His father was named as Daniel Garratt, a waggoner. Unfortunately witnesses do not help as neither are named Garratt. James gave his age as 28 and he was a widower.

My problem is I can't seem to find James before his marriage to Emily.

In the 1881 census there is a James Garratt c1847 at Coventry married to a Lucy but I can't find a death for Lucy so will have to rule this one out, unless you wonderful helpers can find her death for me. I have not been able to find James in his early years with his parents.

The only birth in Coventry for a James Garratt I can find is in Dec q 1848 so I have sent for that certificate.

Could someone please help me.

Chris

Births Mar 1844 (>99%)
GARRATT James Coventry 16 396
Births Dec 1848 (>99%)
Garratt James Coventry 16 391

Another one?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about James Garratt
Name: James Garratt
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Coventry
County: Warwickshire, West Midlands
Volume: 16
Page: 396

Thanks for finding that Safc. Knowing my luck I bet I get the wrong certificate.

Chris

I just wish he hadn't kept changing his year of birth, Going by his age on his marriage to Emily it would have been c1855/1856.

Chris

James born 1849c has a father Samuel, Brickmaker:


1861 England Census
about James Garratt
Name: James Garratt
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Coventry Holy Trinity
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Coventry
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 141
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Garratt 45
Alice Garratt 37
James Garratt 12
Samuel Garratt 3
Alice Garratt 2
Eliza Garratt 1



1901 England Census
about James Garratt
Name: James Garratt
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Household Members:
Name Age
James Garratt 52
Lucy Garratt 45
Alice Garratt 23
Lucy Garratt 20
James Garratt 18
Louisa Garratt 16
Ann Garratt 6

There is always the chance that he wasn't registered. Although it was a legal requirement from 1837 in many cases it was down to the registrar to find and register the births, so of course many were missed.

Removed that census image because you noted that his father was Daniel and on that he was Samuel a Brick maker so obviously the wrong one!

The James Garratt with Lucy in 1881 is still married to her in 1901 - so rule them out.

Oh no, that's £9.25 down the drain. It looks like I am going to have to buy at least another one.

Chris

hi

Groom's Name: James Garratt
Groom's Birth Date: 1856
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 28
Bride's Name: Emily Ingle
Bride's Birth Date: 1865
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 19
Marriage Date: 1884
Marriage Place: St. Peter'S, Walsall, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name: Daniel Garratt
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: William Ingle
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M06065-3
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1526217
Reference Number: 2:3DL4XCF
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Thank you all for trying to help me. I wish I had asked for your advice before ordering the birth certificate.

Thank you for finding James and Lucy, she obviously wasn't my James's first wife then.

Chris

Hi Safc,

How did you find that info.

Chris

In 1881 as is a coal miner, but unmarried?:
1881 England Census
James Garrett
Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Rugeley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: Rugeley Rd Hazeslade Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Rugeley ED, institution, or vessel: 18
William Davis 47
Mary Davis 46
Sarah Davis 19
Harriet Davis 14
William Davis 13
Elizah Davis 11
Lizzie Davis 8
Roseanna Davis 5
Edward Davis 1
James Garrett 29
James Lane 24
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2779; Folio: 133; Page: 5; GSU roll: 1341665

hi
go to familysearch
then click on search records
then record search pilot

Possible 1881 based on younger age - Listed as unmarried - sorry already found

Name: James Garrett
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Rugeley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Rugeley Rd Hazeslade
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Rugeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Davis 47
Mary Davis 46
Sarah Davis 19
Harriet Davis 14
William Davis 13
Elizah Davis 11
Lizzie Davis 8
Roseanna Davis 5
Edward Davis 1
James Garrett 29
James Lane 24

You are all very kind.

I've see it where people getting married have said they are a bachelor or spinster when in fact they are widowed, but I can't see James saying widower if he hadn't been married before. What are your thoughts please.

Chris

hi
can't find another james garratt married with father called daniel

Thank you so much for trying.

I will have to have another look and see if I can find Daniel whose occupation is waggoner but I don't hold out much hope.

If the birth cert I've ordered does not name father as Daniel, I might try a phone call to Coventry register office and see if I can get them to to check the births for me to see if they can find one with Daniel as dad.

Chris

Whatever you find - come back to us and we will see if we can get any further.

Dea x

Hi Dea,

Thanks for the offer, I will update this once I get the birth certificate.

Chris